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For a republic, America sure loves its political dynasties

09 May
He’s old enough?
 
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Posted by on May 9, 2024 in America, The Kulturkampf

 

13 responses to “For a republic, America sure loves its political dynasties

  1. feeriker

    May 9, 2024 at 2:27 am

    He’s old enough?

    He’s graduating from high school this year, so I guess he’s eighteen.

    DEFINITELY too young to vote, no matter how wealthy and powerful his daddy is. 

     
    • Will S.

      May 9, 2024 at 2:32 am

      Yeah.

       
  2. Steiner

    May 9, 2024 at 2:58 am

    A republic in name only?

    I can’t wait for a Mexican tranny for preezy of the steezy.

    Forward!

    Si se puede.

     
    • Will S.

      May 9, 2024 at 9:14 am

      Yeah.

       
  3. feeriker

    May 9, 2024 at 9:25 am

    A republic in name only?

    We couldn’t keep it. In fact, we lost it pretty much as soon as it was founded:

     
    • smellincoffee

      May 9, 2024 at 10:01 am

      The Republic had its bad broken in 1860-1865 when Lincoln made it clear DC ruled the people, not themselves, and what was left was destroyed by men like Wilson and Roosevelt. We’re living in the ‘principate’ phase of DC’s empire — ruled by tyrants but with the skin of the old republic.

       
      • feeriker

        May 9, 2024 at 3:18 pm

        Yup.

         
      • electricangel

        May 9, 2024 at 4:26 pm

        Yes, xactly. Freed the slaves and enslaved the citizens. The Stupid South could hve run the war a little better, too.

         
      • smellincoffee

        May 9, 2024 at 7:21 pm

        Sah, I reccommend you google the Brooks-Sumner affair before you go around badmouthing the South.

        But yes. Jeff Davis’ military background made him think he could command better than the men on the ground, conflict was initiated without being ready, too much was banked on keeping cotton from the global market, etc. Didn’t help that the patricians exempted themselves from the draft, which tanked morale.

         
      • electricangel

        May 10, 2024 at 5:48 pm

        meh. The only way for the south to win was to kill Union Soldiers like the Afghans killed Russians. They wouldn’t do that, instead sending thousands of young men to horrible deaths charging into grapeshot. Gettysburg: what was the point about invading the North? That actually WAS treason as defined in the Constitution, and as committed by every Union soldier in the Confederacy.

        it has led to a disaster for everyone, of course.

         
      • smellincoffee

        May 11, 2024 at 10:03 am

        Bad take on the ACW. The South only needed to not be defeated — a bit like the Americans during the war for independence. Washington rarely beat the British in the field, but he always kept his army intact and so prolonged the war that Parliament became frustrated and said to hell with it. That was harder for the South to do because it had a severe lack of war materials, and the Union didn’t have to truck troops and supplies across the Atlantic. It might’ve been possible in 1864, had the Battle for Atlanta gone the other way and led to McClellan winning the presidential election: he was for peace, not prolonging the war.

        Treason is in the eye of the beholder. Back then people were loyal to their State, not some political abstraction barely a half-century old. Had the Patriots failed in the 1770s, they would now be dismissed as traitors. Had the Southerners won in the 1860s, they’d be called Patriots. Down with the Eagle and up with the Cross is what I say.

        “They have called us rebels and traitors, but
        Themselves have been called that of late.
        They were called it by the English invaders at home
        In the year of ’98.
        The name to us is not a new one, though
        ‘Tis one that shall never degrade
        Any true hearted Irishman in the ranks
        Of Kelly’s Irish Brigade.”

         
      • electricangel

        May 12, 2024 at 11:23 am

        “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

        So when Lee marched into Maryland and Pennsylvania, that was treason. Also stupid, because what was the purpose? Naturally, Lincoln was a traitor in levying war against the States. None of this is in the eye of the beholder; it’s in the Constitution.

        I think the surrender of Cornwallis at Yorktown had more to do with UK ceding defeat than Parliament becoming frustrated. That defeat was possible only because Washington wasn’t in control in the South; like the British, he thought the key was to take and hold NYC, which the British held from August, 1776 to May 1783. He did, to his credit, wheel troops south once the French navy had trapped the British in the Chesapeake.

        The south lost the war for Southern Independence (cannot call it a Civil War as they were not vying to take control of the Federal Regime) because they did not make it costly enough for the North. When you’re outnumbered in men and materiel, you don’t do Pickett’s charge. Snipers, roadside bombs, blowing up Union supply trains: these underhanded tactics, so ungentlemanly, would have made the price of occupying the South too high. Instead the under-resourced hotheads started frontal assaults on Leviathan.

        of course, neither the heroic Taliban expulsion of the hated US regime nor the heroic Patriot/Traitor expulsion of the British from the colonies is a good guide for what’s coming. We definitely don’t want to do what the South did.

        what do you suggest? I think the collapse of the dollar system means the end of the Federal Regime since not even its backers believe in it. People fought for the South and for the Rebels in 1776 because they believed; people fight for the Federal Regime now because they are paid (there are a few true believers.) Cut off the ability of the Federal Regime (soon to be junta?) to pay its mercenaries and the whole thing collapses.

         
      • electricangel

        May 12, 2024 at 11:24 am

        oh and there’s no question that the Patriots of 1776 were traitors.

         

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