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Prog ‘Christians’ (i.e. not) always lie about this: the Holy Family were NOT refugees, ‘Rev. Karen’!

23 Jul

Exactly.

If someone was wanted by the authorities in Ontario (whether rightly or wrongly) and fled to Quebec, they wouldn’t be considered a refugee; if someone was wanted by the authorities in New York (whether rightly or wrongly) and fled to Vermont, they wouldn’t be considered a refugee.

It was all the Roman Empire, from Judea to Egypt.

They were not refugees in any sense of the word.

BTW, Karen, you are no Reverend; there is no Scriptural nor early church tradition warrant for ordaining women as ministers. Ergo, you have no spiritual authority, therefore there is no reason to listen to a thing you have to say on Christian doctrine, theology, how they intersect with this world and life, etc. Shut the fuck up.

But I think I will dub every lecturing, hectoring prog woman ‘minister’ now as ‘Rev. Karen’, so thanks for giving me the idea. 😉

 

13 responses to “Prog ‘Christians’ (i.e. not) always lie about this: the Holy Family were NOT refugees, ‘Rev. Karen’!

  1. Hun

    July 23, 2021 at 10:34 am

    It is usually non-Christians using these kind of arguments. But I guess a woman that LARPs as a Reverend makes sense too.

     
    • Will S.

      July 23, 2021 at 10:35 am

      Like you said, non-Christians. 😉

       
  2. Will S.

    July 23, 2021 at 10:40 am

    Dr. Samuel Johnson to James Boswell: “Sir, a woman’s preaching is like a dog’s walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all.”

     
  3. electricangel

    July 23, 2021 at 11:39 am

    Reverend Karen is too precious to make shut up, Will. Let’s encourage her. Then she will inevitably say stupid things, and we can quote her: “that’s just what Reverend Karen said!”

    Definitely an Asset.

     
    • Will S.

      July 23, 2021 at 11:55 am

      🙂

       
    • fuzziewuzziebear

      July 23, 2021 at 3:03 pm

      Me too.

       
  4. fuzziewuzziebear

    July 23, 2021 at 3:08 pm

    I thought Judea at the time was a client kingdom of Rome. The whole issue was about Herod trying to murder babies. There is some speculation by skeptics that the act was so heinous that it would not have been tolerated by the people. In any event, it is a misapplication of misunderstood first century history.

     
    • Will S.

      July 23, 2021 at 3:39 pm

      Yes.

       
    • Will S.

      July 23, 2021 at 3:40 pm

      Remember, the Holy Family were subject to Imperial taxes and census-taking, so Judea being a client kingdom of Rome means it was a vassal.

       
      • fuzziewuzziebear

        July 23, 2021 at 4:01 pm

        You just reminded me of John Adams famous quote as ambassador to the Court of St. James, “Millions for defense, but not one penny in tribute.” He was probably think of what we discussed. No deals with the Romans, they seem to be worse than the Danes.

         
      • Will S.

        July 23, 2021 at 4:02 pm

        🙂

         
  5. jorgen b

    July 23, 2021 at 5:48 pm

    Do they think we forgot all the higher and lower criticism with which they have attacked inerrancy over the years? Maybe only I immediately jump to that as my response. But have I not been told that many scholars believe the gospels did not originally have the birth stories and that Matthew and Luke both originally started it what is now their chapter 3? Have not Bart Ehrman and John Dominic Crossan said this kind of thing? So for the purpose of the refugee argument I concede that Jesus as a baby was not taken by his parents to Egypt or even from Nazareth to Bethlehem or vice versa because those chapters were added by the Catholics according to Ehrman. Now what libtard? (Too bad this is an internet argument because I’d love to see their jaw drop at the fact that someone has a memory.)

     
    • Will S.

      July 23, 2021 at 6:46 pm

      🙂