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Catholic Church in Germany and Austria now

11 May

German Catholics defy Vatican with blessing ceremonies for same-sex couples

The Youth Church in Würzburg, Germany, May 10, 2021. / Gehrig/CNA Deutsch.

Priests and pastoral workers in Germany defied the Vatican Monday by conducting blessing ceremonies attended by same-sex couples.

Organizers held a day of protest on May 10 in response to the Vatican’s recent declaration that the Church does not have the power to bless same-sex unions.

The ceremonies, known as “Segnungsgottesdienste für Liebende,” or “blessing services for lovers,” were promoted using the hashtag “#liebegewinnt” (“love wins”). Organizers said that the services were open to all couples, including — and in particular — those of the same sex.

CNA Deutsch, CNA’s German-language news partner, reported that ceremonies took place in around 80 cities in Germany as well in Zürich, Switzerland’s largest city.

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In the Augustinian Church in Würzburg too all couples — expressly including same-sex couples — were invited to “come and get” the individual blessing in a backroom, after the service.

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The order of service varied from place to place. A participant who attended the blessing ceremony in Cologne told CNA Deutsch that the ceremony was like a “political event.” The event was led by a female pastoral counselor in liturgical robes, who explained that she had already quit her church service.

After some political statements, the Gospel was read aloud, followed by a speech. Finally, the song “Imagine” by John Lennon was played.

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18 responses to “Catholic Church in Germany and Austria now

  1. Will S.

    May 11, 2021 at 9:29 am

    Pope Francis Faces Another German Reformation
    https://archive.is/SwfWl

    Except it’s not Protestant, but Proggy.

    (And if you say what’s the diff, I say: remove the mote from your own eye, i.e. the proggies of this kind from your body, then maybe we can talk. Maybe.)

     
    • electricangel

      May 11, 2021 at 9:39 am

      People get the Prog crap from everywhere. If everyone’s thinking the same thing, then no one is thinking.

      Vatican II was the end of the Church. It’s been a catastrophe for Papists and you Prot Heretics alike: it destroyed the solid foundation against which all could measure themselves. You only stand against the current when you’re anchored to the Rock.

      The Church, adrift.

       
      • Will S.

        May 11, 2021 at 9:40 am

        Yeah.

         
      • info

        May 11, 2021 at 10:29 am

        Orthodoxy I still hope in lol.

         
      • imnobody00

        May 11, 2021 at 11:09 am

        Yes, as a Catholic, Vatican II is when our religion was replaced by the Progressive religion. We are in the end times and the Church is going to survive in minorities and private houses, like the prophecies of the Saints said.

         
      • electricangel

        May 11, 2021 at 1:14 pm

        @Info:
        I’m becoming more suspecting that the Church needs to be tied to a state and be the moral expression thereof. So Orthodox won’t do it for me, but the Russian Orthodox seminary down the block just might. Just like Will isn’t a Calvinist but a Dutchie.

        The Church was once basically an Italian expression. Maybe getting away from Italian leadership has been part of the problem.

         
      • info

        May 11, 2021 at 11:02 pm

        @ElectricAngel

        The Byzantine notion of Church and State symphony I think would be good.

         
  2. feeriker

    May 11, 2021 at 9:32 am

    Not the least bit surprised by this. Germany and Austria, like the rest of Western Europe, are both thoroughly “post-Christian.”

     
  3. cameron232

    May 11, 2021 at 11:32 am

    Don’t attend mass in a church without an altar rail.

     
    • Will S.

      May 11, 2021 at 1:17 pm

      They got rid of those?

       
      • cameron232

        May 11, 2021 at 1:34 pm

        I’m dense – I assume you’re not being sarcastic?

        Yeah, post Vatican II altar rails went away in most Catholic Churches. The bishop of Orlando (I think) made the few local priests who reinstalled them in the last decade into black sheep – or so I’ve heard.

        No altar rails and no communion on the tongue.

         
      • Will S.

        May 11, 2021 at 1:40 pm

        I’m Protestant (Reformed), we don’t have those, but I’ve seen them in older Catholic churches.

        I’m therefore the one who’s dense. 😉

        Thanks for the explanation, Cameron! 🙂

         
  4. fuzziewuzziebear

    May 11, 2021 at 1:15 pm

    This really is gay overreach. I think the original idea was to extend spousal benefits to gay couples, which does make some sense, but this is beyond reason.

     
    • Will S.

      May 11, 2021 at 1:19 pm

      Yeah.

       
    • c matt

      May 11, 2021 at 4:14 pm

      It would seem to make sense to extend benefits to any designated other as long as you are willing to pay the premium – spouse, neighbor, dog, cat.

      From a societal preservation perspective, it only make sense to extend spousal benefits to heterosexual couples as those are the only ones that can procreate on a large enough scale to , well, preserve society. Of course, that presumes your society is worth preserving . . . .

       
      • fuzziewuzziebear

        May 11, 2021 at 4:47 pm

        Inheritance is a big issue for everyone, including heterosexuals. a lot of farmer’s widows have to sell the farm to pay taxes.

         
      • Will S.

        May 11, 2021 at 6:18 pm

        Which is nuts.

         

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