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Interesting observation about Iran by Forney

20 Oct

Yep.

Why, they even have their own BLM movement! 😉

Yes; Saudi Arabia, with its ancient monarchy, is far more trad than the young revolutionary Iranian republican regime.

Which is more reactionary?

Remember, until recent years women couldn’t even drive in Saudi Arabia; not so in Iran, where they have driven for some time.

Women can vote and run for office in Iran. Nobody votes in Saudi.

Look at this, this, this, and this, and tell me that the revolution in Iran was ‘based’, reactionary; is Saudi suffering nearly as much proggyism as Iran?

(Not that things aren’t declining in Saudi, too; we’ve covered that here, but it seems Iran is facing more of this than there.)

 

23 responses to “Interesting observation about Iran by Forney

  1. Will S.

    October 20, 2020 at 8:00 pm

    Some partial disagreement, good points:

     
    • Will S.

      October 20, 2020 at 8:00 pm

      But agreement on main point:

       
  2. Will S.

    October 20, 2020 at 8:02 pm

    And more agreement:

    Spot on.

    Islam normally forbids photographs; yet Iran has lots of photographs of Khomeini everywhere – or at least did while he was alive, as I remember.

    Also, yeah, mandatory chanting party slogans is a totalitarian revolutionary thing, not a trad thing.

     
  3. Dave

    October 20, 2020 at 9:46 pm

    I recently watched this video for the first time:

    Steve Jobs describes his new invention as three things: (1) a wide-screen Ipod, (2) a revolutionary mobile phone, and (3) a breakthrough Internet communicator. Had might as well have added (4) a device that will smash patriarchy and liberate women and girls in every nation on Earth, leading to the near-extinction of sentient hominids, since any minimally literate person with an IQ over 70 can use one of these things.

    It’s not that hard to get hold of a smartphone, even in a Somali or Afghan village. All a girl has to do with it is take a picture of her titties and post it, and she suddenly has 5000 male admirers most of whom are way better looking than the old man her parents were planning to marry her to.

     
    • Will S.

      October 20, 2020 at 10:04 pm

      Future historians, in the next civilization that arises well after this one has ended, will have an interesting perspective on smart phones, I’m sure. 😉

       
    • awildgoose

      October 20, 2020 at 10:07 pm

      Girls next door no longer exist because they’re all selling themselves on TikTok and OnlyFans, destroying their ability to pair bond along the way.

      I hate this timeline.

       
      • Will S.

        October 20, 2020 at 10:15 pm

        Yeah.

         
      • Dave

        October 20, 2020 at 10:33 pm

        One guy said he was in high school when Tinder went live, and it absolutely nuked the dating market from orbit.

        Women today have surprisingly little sex, not because they’re saving themselves for marriage but because they’re saving themselves for another booty call from that ultra-Chad they met on Tinder a few years ago.

         
      • awildgoose

        October 21, 2020 at 6:55 am

        Yeah, even the 2s and 3s think they deserve a Gigachad without understanding how rare those guys are because women are basically innumerate.

         
      • Dave

        October 22, 2020 at 2:28 am

        A woman who was well ravished *once* by a giga-chad years ago, when he was drunk, horny, and bored, and she was 50 lbs lighter than she is today, just cannot feel anything toward a less attractive man. Like Monica Lewinsky, she will forever pine for his return, and wonder what she did or said that made him ghost out on her.

        In societes where fornication is strictly forbidden, men only flirt with girls they hope to marry, which gives those girls a much more realistic appraisal of their own attractiveness.

         
  4. Hoyos

    October 20, 2020 at 9:51 pm

    They’re also basically on board the trans thing as well.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_Iran

     
    • Will S.

      October 20, 2020 at 10:05 pm

      Yes, I linked a post about it that I did years ago:

      https://patriactionary.wordpress.com/2014/08/07/iran-and-sexual-freaks-politics/

       
    • Will S.

      October 20, 2020 at 10:07 pm

      Seems the original post is missing.

      Yeah, it’s funny how they hate gay rights but then force queers to make a choice: jail or sex change… Then they are free to ‘be women’, ostensibly, afterwards…

      Show how irreligious they are, if they think one can freely change what God has done, made us male and female…

       
  5. fuzziewuzziebear

    October 20, 2020 at 9:56 pm

    It all happened back in 1979 and for all the world to see, they went crazy. I don’t think that crazy can be defined politically. As for fixing it, the Iranians have to do the greater part of that on their own.

     
    • Will S.

      October 20, 2020 at 10:09 pm

      Well fuzzy, it was revolutionary, and they believe in global Marxist type class and race struggles.

      They are Marxists after a kind.

      They have to fix it themselves, because it’s their problem, and no-one else’s responsibility.

       
      • fuzziewuzziebear

        October 21, 2020 at 12:39 am

        I think that they tried to create a society that would fit into the sixth century. It’s just not going to work.

         
      • Will S.

        October 21, 2020 at 12:43 am

        Well, Iran’s government has been stable since 1979…

        I’m no fan of either the Shan nor the Islamic fundy revolutionaries; just noting they seem to be lasting…

         
  6. feeriker

    October 20, 2020 at 10:33 pm

    Iran is Venezuela with a thin veneer of Islam (Shi’a Islam, which the majority Sunnis label as heretical).

     
    • electricangel

      October 20, 2020 at 10:45 pm

      Shias believe in free will; Sunnis do not. I’d be Shia, notSunni.

       
    • Will S.

      October 20, 2020 at 10:58 pm

      Which I think says as much about Venezuela as it does about Iran: we have basically a second Cuba in our hemisphere, yet few acknowledge just how radical its regime is.

       
      • feeriker

        October 21, 2020 at 10:42 am

        And it’s collapsing faster in six years than Cuba has in sixty – even with an economy ten times stronger than Cuba’s.

        In the past what’s happened in Venezuela would have prompted either direct U.S. military intervention or a carefully engineered, broadly supported coup to prevent the current state of affairs. That the U.S. has been unable or unwilling to do this speaks to how far the decay has advanced in all of the USSA’s institutions by which its international might, muscle, and prestige are asserted.

         
      • Will S.

        October 21, 2020 at 10:57 am

        Wow.

        Indeed.

         

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