Royal Canadian Navy to replace ’seaman’ in rank titles with gender-neutral term

21 Jul


OTTAWA — The Canadian military’s sailors and the public will have a chance to weigh in as the Royal Canadian Navy moves to drop the term “seaman” when referring to its most junior sailors and replace it with something more gender-neutral.

Navies around the world have described their junior sailors as “seamen” for decades if not centuries, with the Royal Canadian Navy using “ordinary seaman,” “able seaman,” “leading seaman” and “master seaman.”

But those terms are being replaced in Canada as the navy — which is short hundreds of sailors — charts new waters to become more diverse and inclusive, according to Cmdr. Deborah-Lynn Gates, who is responsible for the navy’s personnel policy.

blah blah blah…

Well, I guess one good thing will be no more bad puns about ‘seamen’ / ‘semen’… 😉

Members of the navy as well as the public at large will be able to vote online on two alternatives starting Friday, with both variants substituting “sailor” in place of “seaman” in different ways.

One simply replaces “seaman” with “sailor” in the existing ranks. The other would do away with adjectives such as “able” and “leading” in favour of labels such as “sailor first class” and “sailor second class.”

I suppose, like ‘firefighters’ and ‘police officers’, better than ‘fireperson’ and ‘policeperson’…


11 responses to “Royal Canadian Navy to replace ’seaman’ in rank titles with gender-neutral term

  1. electricangel

    July 21, 2020 at 10:33 am

    I still call them firemen. And policemen, usually.

    We cannot have “what’s long, hard, black, tubular, wet, and filled with seamen” in the case of Canada anymore. Do you guys even HAVE submarines?

  2. fuzziewuzziebear

    July 21, 2020 at 1:20 pm

    Years ago, women would get pregnant in advance of being assigned aboard ship. It is probably still true. Why are we bothering to go to absurd lengths to accommodate women who won’t participate?

    • Will S.

      July 21, 2020 at 1:21 pm

      Because Woke / P.C. Besides, probably now more driven by transgender rather than feminist issues…

      • fuzziewuzziebear

        July 21, 2020 at 1:33 pm

        I thought that Trump prohibited transgenders in the military. It came down to the cost of the military financing their transition. It’s expensive and dangerous, fraught with infections. No, this is the old beat to death horse of feminism rearing its ugly head again.

      • Will S.

        July 21, 2020 at 1:34 pm

        Oh yeah, I forgot.

        So, it’s the old ill, as opposed to the new one. 🙂

      • fuzziewuzziebear

        July 21, 2020 at 5:15 pm

        Those feminists are not going to give up until they are planted six feet under.

      • Will S.

        July 21, 2020 at 5:30 pm

        I hope they give up. 😉

  3. freemattpodcast

    July 21, 2020 at 9:52 pm

    Im sure Justin Trudeau thought “long and hard” about this just like a submarine?


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