Old-school leftist Kunstler plans to vote for Trump; a few thoughts

13 Jul

The most interesting, un-woke, old-school leftist James Howard Kunstler plans to vote for Trump:

I’ve gotten a lot of letters and comments lately condemning my failure to go all-out against Mr. Trump. So, I’ll state my current position plainly: I didn’t vote for him last time, but I would vote for him this time to keep the Democratic Party out of power. There’s a lot to not love about Mr. Trump in his persona and manner. There’s a great deal more to fear about the prospect of Democratic Party control of government. Their enmity to free speech cannot be doubted after a decade of promoting cancel culture. Their appetite for coercion is at odds with the Bill of Rights. Their bad faith and dishonesty have been on display through all the concocted melodramas of RussiaGate and its offshoots. Their economic program is a mashup of all the failed central planning regimes from the bygone 20th century and is wholly inconsistent with the new imperatives to downscale and re-localize the real productive activities of daily life in this country.

Beyond Mr. Trump’s deformities of personal presentation, I am more in favor with the blunt outlines of his policies. I’m for strict control of the nation’s borders and frankly for reduced immigration. Globalism is clearly winding down and Mr. Trump’s drive to produce more of what we need here in America is in step with that reality. Mr. Trump has been careful to avoid new foreign misadventures — though the military establishment and their pals in the war industries have obstructed the president’s will to quit the old adventures still being prosecuted in places across the Middle East and West Asia. I suspect Mr. Trump might have accomplished more in the nation’s interest if he hadn’t been hounded, harried, and sabotaged by the ceaseless bad faith hostilities of his opponents since Nov. 8, 2016.

I’m not confident about Mr. Trump’s management of the nation’s financial quandaries, and especially the racking-up of epic new debt, but there’s plenty of evidence that the Democratic Party would do a lot worse in terms of spending money that doesn’t exist and destroying what’s left of the country’s productive capacity, along with what remains of the middle class. I believe anybody who has managed to stay sane through the travails of the past four years cannot fail to see that the clinically incompetent Joe Biden is an obvious stalking horse for something more sinister. I think we will learn what that is before much longer.

Kunstler isn’t fazed by recent polls, either:

I don’t buy the polls that show Mr. Biden ten points up on Mr. Trump. I suspect many actual voters were not pleased by the June reign of terror unleashed by Democratic mayors and governors, and did not fail to notice exactly how all that went down. And it is well-known now, four years after the last election and its janky polling, that many voters won’t reveal their true intentions to pollsters — fearing the vilification they’d invite.

Interesting times!

I hope more people who may not be decidedly populist / nationalist or even rightist but who definitely aren’t Woke see the importance of preventing the Dems from getting in.

I’ve always been one who, in the past, e.g. when Dubya was president, thought it was really unnecessarily melodramatic when Republicans painted the alternatives in stark, apocalyptic terms, why it was so critical that the other side not win.

However, for once, I do think it really does matter that much, even more than it did even in 2016; not so much on the basis of wanting to vote for Trump and the GOP so much as to vote against the agenda of the BLM/Antifa-symp Woke SJW-agenda-driven Dems, and to keep them from power.


Posted by on July 13, 2020 in America, good news


9 responses to “Old-school leftist Kunstler plans to vote for Trump; a few thoughts

  1. fuzziewuzziebear

    July 13, 2020 at 10:48 pm

    I had to double check. The Kunstler that I remember was a screaming liberal attorney. His name is William. This guy is James Howard. Good for him that he is pointing out nuts and bolts issues, it does keep things simple.

    • Will S.

      July 13, 2020 at 10:58 pm

      I did mention his full name in my opening sentence. 😉

      Yes, and I hope the ‘blackpilled’ who are here take note: there’ll never be perfection in anyone on this side of eternity, only Christ; hence why I have always said as here:

      But, all that said, the choices now are clearly starker than ever before: the far-from-perfect-but-better-than-in-many-years on one side, and the clearly demonic Christianity-haters on the other.

      • fuzziewuzziebear

        July 13, 2020 at 11:46 pm

        When the Democrats chose to ignore working families to indulge identity politics was when they betrayed their core principles. It’s too bad that Andrew Jackson is not here to agree.

      • Will S.

        July 13, 2020 at 11:49 pm


  2. awildgoose

    July 14, 2020 at 6:53 am

    I’m not too surprised by this.

    JHK’s reasoning about crummy architecture and our soulless building strategies have been pretty solid over the years. He is also right about the need to decentralize.

    He missed on peak oil because he underestimated how much was possible via fracking and tar sands.

    Of course, my Libtard friend is done with JHK and rants about how he’s, “criticizing the black community.”

    • Will S.

      July 14, 2020 at 10:37 am

      Yes, he is solid on a number of things.

      And no wonder the Woke dislike him…

    • electricangel

      July 14, 2020 at 11:30 pm

      “He missed on peak oil because he underestimated how much was possible via fracking and tar sands.”

      Au contraire. Oil isn’t just oil. Peak oil refers yes to peak production of oil, but no one wants oil for itself. We want it for the energy yield, and even more for petrochemicals. We produced a hell of a lot more barrels of oil under fracking than we did at our peak conventional oil year of 1970.

      But Those barrels are kind of funny. No one made money producing them, because the energy invested in getting the oil was so high. Conventional oil had an energy return of about 100-1 for the best fields. From what I’ve seen on fracked oil, it was 10-15 to 1. You still get a positive return, but you need to consume more of the oil actually getting oil: there’s FAR less energy surplus left to run the rest of industrial America.

      As JHK points out often, prices below $80 a barrel kill frackers as they go bankrupt. Prices above $80 kill the economy, as the oil costs too much for most to afford.

      We probably passed peak BTUs per capita in 1973. Since 2005, when global conventional oil peaked, we’ve had nothing but economic malaise. It’s going to get worse. It might never get any better.

      • info

        July 15, 2020 at 5:36 am


        Cities will be getting dismantled. Buildings demolished. There will be more wilderness left over. Suburbs shrink. Malls will disappear. And plague will take out the weak and sickly.

        Retail apocalypse is one example of this playing out:


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