Submission with a twist, and denying rebellion.

24 Jul

Exhibit #5,965,783 why I loathe the celebrity pastors of the Reformed world – Doug Wilson, Doug Phillips, John Piper, Tim Keller, Al Mohler, Mark Driscoll, etc. almost as much as I loathe evanjellyfish types like Russell Moore. Churchian Blue-Pill ‘complementarian’ cucks, all…

Between evangelicalism and the Reformed world, I don’t think I’ve encountered yet a single famous preacher who isn’t problematic doctrinally in some way or another. Eschew the famous ones. They all suck. (Mind you, so do many unknown ones, but almost always, the famous ones have gotten so by in some way compromising doctrinally, and thereby becoming worldly popular…) (Don’t think I’m endorsing mainlines, or Pope Francis, though; not for a minute…)


Pastor Doug Wilson has a new post up titled 21 Theses on Submission in Marriage (HT Hmm).  Taken individually, most of the theses are good, and parts of the post are excellent. For brevity I’ll focus on what I see as the main flaws in the post, but I would encourage my readers to follow the link and read the whole thing.

One of the key ways complementarians neuter headship is by adding a special rule to husbands;  submission is mandatory, they tell us, but husbands must not instruct or try in any way to coerce their wives into accepting their biblical role.  As Mary Kassian explains in 7 Misconceptions about Submission, husbands must only love their wives sacrificially, and hope their wife gets the hint:

Misconception #4: Submission is a right—a husband has the right to demand his wife’s submission.

A husband does not have the right to…

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Posted by on July 24, 2017 in Uncategorized


8 responses to “Submission with a twist, and denying rebellion.

  1. Sean

    July 24, 2017 at 8:13 pm

    Amen to the famous. At least only the Reformed know of James White. 🙂

    Have you heard Piper’s 8 years on Romans?

    • Will S.

      July 24, 2017 at 8:23 pm


      No, I haven’t. What about it?

  2. feeriker

    July 24, 2017 at 11:18 pm

    Too many people are willing to give Wilson a pass because some of what he says and writes is doctrinally sound.

    So what? Some of what Adolf Hitler said and did was tangentially logical, sane, and societally beneficial, but does that sufficiently outweigh the bad to merit an endorsement?

  3. infowarrior1

    July 28, 2017 at 10:54 am

    The Duluth Model equates Authority specifically God appointed Male Authority as automatic abuse or DV. Equivalent to declaring all Kings as automatic tyrants. Making even God into a Tyrant by definition.

    • Will S.

      July 28, 2017 at 5:02 pm



      “As a lifеlоng quееr fеminiѕt I rеjеct all fоrms of patriarcһy, wһicһ in my caѕе alѕо mеans rеjеcting tһе namе of tһe fatһеr, tһе ѕоn оr tһе һоly gһоѕt.”

      So God is rejected, because God is male.


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