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Age of consent should be teenage years

24 Feb

God made humans sexually mature, i.e. physiologically adult, capable of reproducing, when they become teenagers, more or less (can start earlier, but by the time they’re 13, they’re certainly all into puberty, and girls can certainly get pregnant at that age).

In centuries past, many people did marry quite early on; this is documented. There are other cultures where this is still the case; they do not have any conception of ‘adolescence’.

Our extended adolescence and delay of adult responsibilities is stupid. Our laws punishing sexual relations between someone over 18 and someone under 18 but bearing secondary sexual characteristics, able to reproduce, are irrational.

If parents want to protect their children, they need to bring them up right with proper values, and keep them at home until they consider them marriageable. Maybe for some, that isn’t till 18, or 26; for others, maybe at 14, they’re ready. No reason why 18 should be the age; that’s completely arbitrary, and it isn’t when people become physically capable of reproducing.

The laws should be changed. Teach your girls not to be sluts, if you don’t want them fornicating. Encourage them to marry while their fertility is at its peak, rather than delaying for the sake of education and career.

P.S. There should be no such thing as ‘jailbait’; if a teenage girl flirts with an older man, and seduces him, he shouldn’t be criminally liable for engaging in consensual activity with her. Again, if fathers want to protect their daughters, it should be up to them to bring them up right so they don’t fornicate; it shouldn’t be the state’s role to punish men who take advantage of willing, consenting slutty teenage girls.

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16 Comments

Posted by on February 24, 2017 in law, Sex

 

16 responses to “Age of consent should be teenage years

  1. Dave

    February 24, 2017 at 12:43 pm

    The problem is, people are ready to have sex many years before they’re ready to decide who they ought to be having sex with. Look at your spouse — would either of you have been harmed in any way if you’d started having sex when the younger of you was 14? Hell no, you’d have enjoyed every moment and would still cherish those memories today.

    Fathers need legal authority over their daughters until marriage; whatever values he instills in her will be washed away in a surge of adolescent hormones. In Mexico the age of consent is 12 *if* the girl’s parents approve, otherwise it’s 18. (12 is too low for a white country; it should be 14 because white people mature more slowly)

     
    • Will S.

      February 24, 2017 at 7:26 pm

      I’m a bachelor, but I take your first point. 🙂

      I indeed like granting fathers legal authority over their daughters, so that their daughters can be charged if they violate their parents’ wishes and are caught, but also with a proviso that if their daughters run away, to shack up with a boyfriend, their father can legally wash their hands of them, and also, again, so no man gets in trouble for a consensual act that a sexually mature, teenage girl (not a preteen girl, but a biologically adult female) is a willing participant in.

       
      • infowarrior1

        February 25, 2017 at 6:18 am

        Indeed there is also a biblical basis for your viewpoint:
        http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/marriage_age.htm

         
      • Will S.

        February 25, 2017 at 8:37 am

        Interesting; I hadn’t appreciated the meaning of that passage. I certainly agree with his analysis; I cannot see any reason to argue contrariwise.

         
      • infowarrior1

        February 25, 2017 at 6:28 am

        This is interesting too:
        http://gem.greenwood.com/wse/wsePrint.jsp?id=id614

        Although I think the age of consent of 18 seemed to mirror the voting age of Ancient Greeks. Serving also as a check on fertility after the industrial revolution. Also seems to gain traction among people who are descended from those west of the Hajnal Line:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajnal_line

        Although it does seem that one can be old enough for certain things but not others. Biblical conscription requires the Male be 20 years old however He can certainly marry when younger. And the requirements for serving as a priest requires a man of older than the conscription age.

         
      • Will S.

        February 25, 2017 at 8:48 am

        I agree that it seems rational for one to be old enough for some things but not for others, because not every life choice has the same importance and/or level of intelligence and maturity required.

        Our society must agree, on some level, because we don’t have the same ages for everything.

        e.g. here in Ontario, one can purchase tobacco at 16 (at least, I know there used to be signs saying such; I don’t pay much attention to know whether there still are, whether the law is still that, but my point still stands that it used to be that), but one cannot vote or serve in the military until 18, and one cannot purchase alcoholic beverages until 19. So, our laws don’t say one’s legal status with regards to various activities much change at one specific age, but instead spreads them out over several years. This intuitively makes some sense, though I can understand those who are irritated that they can take a bullet for their country at 18 but not order a drink till 19; not all the legal age requirement differences make sense. But I think the overall principle does, and is rational enough.

         
      • infowarrior1

        June 26, 2017 at 10:34 am

        The current confusion or the wrongheadedness is as you say the extension of childhood beyond the biological age of sexual maturity(visibly in the 1st menses in females) whereas in many centuries pasts even millennia. What we call teenagers were considered adult men and women made responsible and trained by the society to be mature. And mental maturity is due to the choices made by the individual and societal conditioning which is why we currently have over 18 mental children in contrast to history where those who are younger than that and sexually mature are much more mentally mature.

        There is no question that pedophillia is wrong. However there has been errors in the modern era in this department in terms of applying the word instead of where it belongs.

        And there are notable issues also due to fatherlessness that results in earlier puberty in girls (which comes with its own health problems) who are much more promiscious and shows up very often in teen pregnancy stats.

        Fathers in the househood causes delays puberty in girls according to research and result in other superior outcomes.

         
  2. Prince LaQroix

    February 25, 2017 at 3:36 pm

    This is the problem with lawyers. They think that if you make laws then you solve the problem. Don’t want sex between 16 year olds and 20 year olds? Ban it. Don’t want people drinking? Ban it. Lawyers seem to think that simply having laws on the books will help solve the issue while at the same stripping away rights of parents to raise their kids as they see fit. I see no better way of helping solve some of these issues than by empowering parents and letting them instill their wisdom into their children.

     
    • Will S.

      February 25, 2017 at 7:52 pm

      Exactly. My point is to remove it from the interference of governments, bureaucrats, and lawyers, and to force parents to take greater responsibility for their offspring, realizing that they can’t count on others to do their job for them.

      This will encourage parents who truly do care about their offspring to actually be involved in their children’s lives, and not just as helicopter parents and soccer moms, tiger moms, etc., but to actually do the job of morally educating their children, not relying on schools, etc. to teach them right from wrong.

      And maybe, just maybe, in time, teenagers will be mature enough, once again, to be able to marry, or at least marry in their early adult years rather than putting it off too long.

      Win-win!

       
      • infowarrior1

        July 2, 2017 at 8:58 am

        Given that 2-3 centuries and countless millennia ago. That adulthood came with sexual maturity wtwhat we call adolescence. It will take quite a change to make it a social reality once again so that it actually comports with biological reality with capability of reproduction(without the medical complications that result from too early puberty or too late including during pregnancy) and sexual attraction that begins at that time.

        Certainly preparation to ensure mental maturity is important. And ability to provision also on the part of the young man.

        Its too bad the above is confused with the true sexual perversion mistakenly lumped in with it.

         
      • Will S.

        July 2, 2017 at 11:53 am

        Alas…

         
      • infowarrior1

        August 30, 2017 at 8:41 am

        This is also a useful link:

        http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/childbrides.htm#a3

        Making sure that we do things in accordance with natural law and minimizing the risk of complications and health of the mother and child.

         

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