Is this “I’ll do what I want” attitude compatible with life-long married love?
This new report from Live Science gives us some numbers about who initiates divorces most frequently.
Women are more likely than men to initiate divorce in the United States, but they are no more likely than men to initiate breakups in a dating relationship, a new study finds.
“The breakups of nonmarital heterosexual relationships in the U.S. are quite gender-neutral and fairly egalitarian,” study author Michael Rosenfeld, an associate professor of sociology at Stanford University, said in a statement. “This was a surprise because the only prior research that had been done on who wanted the breakup was research on marital divorces.”
Previous research had found that women are more likely to initiate divorce, at least in the United States, Europe and Australia. In the new study, Rosenfeld compared divorces to nonmarital breakups, in an effort…
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December 5, 2016 at 1:54 pm
“Women are more likely than men to initiate divorce in the United States, but they are no more likely than men to initiate breakups in a dating relationship”
who would have thought that when the cost to break up is basically zero men are cool with dropping the axe. but when they face financial and other punishments they don’t.
thank god for the people studying the blindingly obvious.
December 6, 2016 at 2:15 am
LOL, exactly! 🙂
December 5, 2016 at 2:02 pm
Although nothing new or earth-shattering in the article to which WK linked, it was interesting to see it approached from a statistical perspective (I’m still inclined to think that the “69 percent” figure is about ten points below where it really is).
I did post on WK’s site taking issue with his recommendation to young men that, in considering a marriageable woman, they look for one who has had to do things that she did not want to do, such as “getting a STEM degree” or “getting a job in STEM.” A woman getting a degree in general, particularly in a STEM field, is symptomatic of a woman with career ambitions that are the very cause of delayed marriage, emphasis on self-gratification over considerations of marriage and family, and other dysfunctional misery we see so rampant today. A woman with a STEM degree is the woman he describes as overworked, (thinking that she is) a breadwinner, and neglectful of her husband and children’s needs. We need much LESS of that rather than more, and encouraging women to go to college and be indoctrinated in feminist imperatives, while striving for degrees in fields in which most have neither aptitude nor interest, is self-defeating.
December 6, 2016 at 2:19 am
Yeah, I don’t agree with that part of his advice, either. Though I have found, being in the science field, women in STEM fields to be in certain ways overall more reasonable and less flaky than many others, nevertheless, I don’t think they’re ideal marriage material precisely because they are wanting very demanding careers, even more demanding than stupid pencil-pusher office jobs. Even if they’re naturally smarter and less flaky women than perhaps others might be, the negatives of their career paths IMO outweigh the positives of their more logical, rational personalities.
December 8, 2016 at 5:06 am
Here’s another reason not to marry a STEM gal – she may be able to pull in more money than you, and then:
bluebird of bitterness
December 8, 2016 at 3:40 pm
To be fair, many wives initiate divorce proceedings because their husbands repeatedly cheat on them and refuse to stop. I can’t say for sure that I would not have done the same if my husband had ever been so imprudent, but fortunately for me (and him), that situation never arose. 🙂
I’m not in favor of divorce — far from it — but sometimes when you’re in an impossible situation, there are no good options, and you can only try to choose the least horrible one.
December 9, 2016 at 2:55 am
Certainly, that accounts for a portion of the divorce stats. But when almost half of marriages fail, and 2/3 of those divorces are initiated by women, I can’t imagine that most are resulting from abusive husbands; some, sure, but surely not most. That’s just too large a proportion to be the case, surely.
bluebird of bitterness
December 9, 2016 at 10:10 am
You’re probably right. I just don’t like it when they’re all lumped in together and it’s assumed that if women are breaking up their marriages, it’s necessarily the women’s fault. Sometimes the marriage is already dead and initiating divorce is no more than a recognition of that fact.
December 9, 2016 at 11:04 am
Indeed, the sad truth is, there are a lot of people of both sexes today who don’t understand marriage, and really have no damn business marrying, since they’re not prepared to make sacrifices and compromises, to make a marriage work, as any long-married person will testify is critical.