A Hypothetical Case Study

27 Jun
A Hypothetical Case Study

Hear, hear!

I think this applies not only for republics like America, but even for constitutional monarchies like Britain, Canada, New Zealand, etc.; for any kind of liberal democratic government system. I think throughout the western world, the scenario laid out by Fenster is where we find ourselves today. Now, some reactionaries have come to question democracy entirely, but the problem is, as we have seen, the elites need to be held in check themselves (after all, they’re fallible people just like the masses), so balancing power between them and the people is necessary. Having a system with free and fair elections, and referenda on particularly important matters, is surely the best way to accomplish this.

Uncouth Reflections

Fenster writes:

An interesting hypothetical case study.

Direct democracy does not scale up well and tyranny is unacceptable so country X has been established as a republic.  As a republic, it relies on elites to run things, with the elites maintaining legitimacy by not straying too far from public sentiments and by giving the enough of the people what they want enough of the time.

But human nature being what it is, elites are tempted to use their privileged positions to enhance their self-interest.  And since there is no bright line test for the factors that maintain legitimacy no one knows where the boundary is, and there is constant movement away from the public good toward the private good of the favored.

In time, the country begins to resemble an oligarchy.  But it is only halfway there.  In fact, at a certain point you could say it is exactly halfway…

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Posted by on June 27, 2016 in government


6 responses to “A Hypothetical Case Study

  1. Socially Extinct

    June 29, 2016 at 5:58 am

    Interesting. A republic is indeed a “happy medium” between dueling forms of extreme rule, but the problem is that a republic is also subject to the inevitable demands of human nature’s entropy.

    Elites are, after all, only human. In fact, republics should come with “end dates” when the government is dissolved and a new one formed from the ground up and all key players from the previous round are expelled from future governmental service. This will prevent entrenched dynasties from gaining footholds through corruption and wealth and distorting the ostensible aims of the republic to begin with.

    • Will S.

      June 29, 2016 at 11:31 am

      Are you referring to just the elected officials, or also the unelected, behind-the-scenes bureaucrats, responsible for most of the implementation and enforcement of legislation? America of course already has fixed election dates, but no ban, other than two terms for the President, on the number of terms a congressperson may serve; term limits for congresspeople would be interesting.

    • infowarrior1

      July 1, 2016 at 9:16 am

      Since people are apt from not relinquish their grip on power unless forced. How are you supposed to end an organism that is government that seeks to survive and grow in power?

      • Will S.

        July 1, 2016 at 10:19 am

        You can try to organize and take over the reins of government.

        You can pray.

        Beyond that, I don’t know.

      • Socially Extinct

        July 1, 2016 at 10:25 am

        Yes, I agree with you. Human nature is a bleak force to reckon with. Especially when numbers are on its side. Human culture polarizes between the power hungry and the apathetic; everything else is minuscule. Not large enough to shift paradigms.

        In effect, my theoretical “fix” was just that…theoretical 🙂


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