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The Good News: Christian Oppression will increase

06 Jul

It seems like oppression, but it will be fire that purifies. It also indicates that the “sensate” culture of the West (more on that next week) has started to digest itself and will soon vomit and collapse. There will be a need for an “ideate” culture to replace it. So there will be a major opportunity for a religion to establish that in the next 50-100 years. I’m rooting for Christianity, the more trinitarian, the better.

These thoughts are prompted by reading William Anderson’s column on how horrible the oppression is going to be. A couple of excerpts:

In the aftermath of Obergefell, President Obama himself has called for Christian churches and organizations to change their doctrines regarding homosexuality as Hillary Clinton has demanded that adherents to religions that don’t support abortion on demand change their “long-held beliefs.” Commentators in Time and other publications have demanded that churches and religious organizations that don’t support homosexual marriage be stripped of their tax-exempt status, and Obama’s solicitor general in the Supreme Court hearing this year admitted that the government, should the court rule in favor of gay marriage, will most likely move against Christian organizations.

What does that mean? It means that the U.S. and various state and local governments will determine which Christian doctrines are de facto legal and which will be deemed illegal, and any individuals and organizations practicing those doctrines that are unapproved will find themselves facing harassment. I hesitate to use the word “persecution” because much of the harassment will be mild compared to what Christians in other countries (especially in places like Saudi Arabia and North Korea and Iran) are facing. So far, the U.S. Government does not seem hellbent on throwing Christians into prison or executing them, although I am sure there are plenty of factions on the Left that would champion such extreme measures.

But it was a comment that I really appreciated, and so I capture it here. Bruce Majors points out the hypocrisy of Progressives:

The problem is not really gays or Christians. It’s the fascist civil right paradigm of forced association that has left its original intended beneficiaries, black Americans, with high levels of poverty, unemployment, crime, illiteracy, health problems, infant mortality etc etc. But it makes people like Gil feel good and gives them 6 and 7 figure jobs as lobbyists and presidential appointees as paper pushers in the EOE/Fair Housing bureaucracies, so that they can afford to wave rainbow flags and cheer the first black President from the balcony of their new Loft condo built on property seized from working class black people by eminent domain.

Go Bruce! He’s right, of course, and the gay/black schism in the Progressive coalition is open for exploitation. Hmmm, 3% of the population versus 13%, highly religious at that. We live in interesting times. Should the Federal state collapse, as in the Western Roman Empire, you can expect a RISE in living standards for those not connected to the Federal teat.

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32 responses to “The Good News: Christian Oppression will increase

  1. infowarrior1

    July 6, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    Well the church needs a persecution every now and then. I am just about tired of the wishywashy.

     
  2. electricangel

    July 6, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    Ultimately, the irrelevance of the Progressive media to what most people have to do in life makes cutting the cord very easy. I find it hard to get by without an internet connection where _I_ choose the programming, but I could kiss TV goodbye tomorrow and never miss it.

    I still believe culture war is one of attrition, and we can attrit the Progressive side by not financially supporting it.

     
  3. Senghendrake

    July 6, 2015 at 10:23 pm

    Pointing out hypocrisy is utterly pointless. Save your breath. They don’t care- they want to win, by hook or by crook, because they’re the “good guys” and are justified in using any tactics. Case in point: when caught red-handed fabricating false-flag hate crimes, they will double down and claim that they are justified insofar as they “bring light to a real issue”.

    What matters is how the general population perceives things (rightly or wrongly), and how this advances the cultural revolution. Period, full stop. Cultural Marxism 101.

    (Also, I have no idea what’s going on with my comments, is it possible to whitelist me somehow? WordPress seems to think I’m a spammer or something).

     
  4. realgaryseven

    July 7, 2015 at 12:04 am

    God help us.

     
  5. Will S.

    July 7, 2015 at 1:43 am

    I’m looking forward to a complete end to tax-exempt / special tax breaks for Christians, unless they toe the prog line.

    Because then, we’ll see the wheat separated from the chaff; the churches that fall in line with Caesar will be exposed as the useless ones they are, sold-outs, while those which stand firm will be shown to be willing to stand on principle, regardless of the cost. IOW, will be shown to be more faithful Christians.

    The Antithesis will become clearer and clearer, as time progresses.

     
  6. Will S.

    July 7, 2015 at 1:48 am

    @ Senghendrake: I don’t know why your comments always go into the spam folder; normally, after the first time someone comments and we let it through, there’s no issue posting after. Since you’re not on any blacklist, there’s no reason why this should be happening, but WordPress can be buggy.

     
  7. Will S.

    July 7, 2015 at 2:04 am

    There is no ‘whitelist’ feature, alas, so there really isn’t anything we can do, far as I can tell. I always check the spam folder when WordPress mentions there are comments in it, so I should at least catch your comments at some point during the day. I’d complain to WordPress if I were you. Or try again with a different email address, see if that helps – again, your first comment will go into moderation (not spam), and if approved, you should be able to comment after. But then, that should have been the case now; no idea why it isn’t.

     
  8. ray

    July 7, 2015 at 4:12 am

    “Because then, we’ll see the wheat separated from the chaff; the churches that fall in line with Caesar will be exposed as the useless ones they are, sold-outs, while those which stand firm will be shown to be willing to stand on principle, regardless of the cost”

    Yeah. A good thing carried out by bad elements. Lots of this upcoming. But, this way everyone (adults) can see for themselves plainly, and choose freely.

    Christ called it a time of ‘testing upon the whole Earth’ and first he gets rid of fake Christianity and fake Judaism. Makes sense that he would start with people claiming association with him. Cleans the temple floors and works out.

    Most of the chaff separates by its own hand, illustrated by many articles herein. It throws itself up! :O) Jeshua was specific in Revelation about errant churches or spiritual systems in our times, their particular weaknesses. He offers praises and comforts and rewards, but assures that gross rebellion will get snuffed. To ‘put out a candlestick’ means removal of one’s presence before him. So definitely not the way to spend an eternity.

    Cheers.

     
  9. Will S.

    July 7, 2015 at 4:20 am

    “gets rid of fake Christianity and fake Judaism.”

    In your opinion, does the Old Covenant still matter, now that the New Covenant is in effect?

     
  10. Will S.

    July 7, 2015 at 4:22 am

    I believe it’s possible that many Jews might, in the latter days, be brought to Christ, but I’m not certain of it, but what I am certain of is, if they don’t embrace Christ, they’re as doomed as the rest of non-Christians.

     
  11. Eric

    July 7, 2015 at 5:44 am

    I think it’s going to be a lot more brutal than you anticipate. The things you mentioned will likely happen, but that’s going to be the tip of the iceberg. We’re on a sociological trajectory for a North American version of the Holocaust.

    The one silver lining in the cloud is that once the Progs have separated the wheat from the chaff; they’ll decide that the chaff no longer serves any purpose, and those sell-out Churchians will get a dose of their own medicine.

    Watch for countries like Russia to start offering religious asylum for Americans within the next few years.

     
  12. infowarrior1

    July 7, 2015 at 5:52 am

    @Will S.

    There is a danger though as a result of persecution for the rise of right-wing cults that oppose the prog agenda. That look like orthodox Christianity but is not in reality.

    I read about for example utopian sects in catholicism that are “Right-wing” but are heretical and function like a cult after vatican II came along.

    Don’t remember the name though.

     
  13. Senghendrake

    July 7, 2015 at 12:07 pm

    @infowarrior

    Sedevacantists?

     
  14. Will S.

    July 7, 2015 at 12:37 pm

    @ infowarrior1: That is a possibility, indeed.

     
  15. Senghendrake

    July 7, 2015 at 1:06 pm

    I don’t think it’s a “possibility”. It already exists. The Traditionalist Youth Network’s leader appears to be an Eastern Orthodox heretic espousing phyletism and Nietzschean quasi-fascist ideology incompatible with Christianity. He got recently got excommunicated (and axed from at least one reactionary-leaning Facebook group) if I’m not mistaken.

     
  16. oogenhand

    July 7, 2015 at 1:50 pm

    Reblogged this on oogenhand and commented:
    The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church…

     
  17. ray

    July 7, 2015 at 9:55 pm

    Well the Old Covenant matters to me. (It’s easier than the new way too.) Don’t tell anybody I said that though. :O)

    God communicated through Malachi that the essential ‘law of Moses’ remains in effect and force, because God ‘remembers it’ — what we think of as Ten Commandments. Christ and his apostles made an overt break with temporal Hebrew tribal minutiae as itemized in the OT. Yet we are instructed to respect the Hebrew heritage.

    Many ortho and retro Jews will turn to Christ before this is over. Some from love, some from fear, some just from plain sanity. After these Jews return, Scripture reports that they regain places of dignity as teachers.

    Much of the prophetic old-covenant content of the OT concerns our times, and the immediate future. So it still matters and we benefit by studying and understanding the OT. Christ’s life, and the Acts, point toward the consummation of the OT, its condensation in the simple new commands of Jeshua, and the upcoming resurrection of OT and NT prophets and personages. I’d say Christ’s Covenant doesn’t supersede the Old Covenant so much as bring out its true spirit.

    Cheers.

     
  18. infowarrior1

    July 8, 2015 at 12:36 am

    @Seghendrake

    No. Those cults are centered around a personality. And various techniques of mind control are employed robbing individuals of agency and subsuming their personalities in the group.

     
  19. Jonathan Akash Charles

    July 8, 2015 at 1:46 am

    I don’t know
    I think thw church will compromise
    100 years ago men were expected to provide
    women to support them and care for them when they came home

    now it is reverse
    Christians teach men to do homemaking for their wife
    but never ask women to do so
    http://dadlifeblog.com/2013/04/10/thoughts-on-faith/

    They even form groups like these
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/162477467212097/

    where men are encouraged to be homemakers

    so Christians will adapt and accept gay marriage
    hence there will be no real persecution…

    i find it funny that men are now told off for not letting their wife relax when she comes home from work
    but women are never told to do the same…

     
  20. Will S.

    July 8, 2015 at 1:58 am

    @ ray: I agree that Mosaic Law is still in force, except for ceremonial things like not eating pork or shrimp.

    I’m just not sure about the centrality of the Jews, in God’s plan today, given how the New Covenant expanded the Old Covenant to now include Gentiles, who now far outnumber those of Jewish descent within the Covenant today.

    But I understand the interpretations that the Jews may end up eventually largely being converted, and I could see that.

    Cheers. 🙂

     
  21. ray

    July 9, 2015 at 1:28 am

    The ancient Hebrews were vectors for Father and Son, and Christ incarnated literally as king of the Tribe of Judah.

    Same Christ called out the ‘synagogue of satan’ twice in Revelation. Meaning false Judaism (and probably Christianity) in modern times — we’ve seen this particularly on the left, and in feminism, poisonous secular judaism. Paul pissed off the Jews of his time by declaring:

    “For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh:

    But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.”

    Paul basically told the Jews that God didn’t consider them real Jews unless they got with the new program, Christ’s program, which they’d just rejected, violently. But Paul did have authority, from Jeshua, to open that door to Gentiles. The door to the Old Covenant. To confirm the door had already been opened actually.

    Concerning the future, when Christ already sits in Jerusalem, God said through Zechariah —

    “Yea great people and mighty nations shall come to seek the Lord of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the Lord.

    Thus saith the Lord of hosts, In those days shall ten men take hold out of all languages of the nations, even take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, and say, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.”

    The OT prophets and (righteous) kings, most of whom were historical Jews, will be with Christ, and of course also many folded-in ‘Jews’ according to King Jeshua’s dispensation, mentioned above by Paul. They will be quite in demand. :O)

    Cheers.

     
  22. Mark Citadel

    July 9, 2015 at 1:17 pm

    With regard to TradYouth – its a dead end organization invented by a bunch of white supremacists who wanted to seem original by acting Reactionary. As usual, it was entirely focused on Jews, as if this hasn’t crippled the Right from responding to myriad other threats in the past.
    Don’t think too much of the ‘excommunication’ though. It was largely a result of SPLC meddling if I read correctly. Unfortunately, much like the Catholic Church, there are members of my own sect who can be bought very easily.

    I have a new post this week on the creation of a Christian ‘parallel society’. We must go further than the ‘Benedict Option’.

    http://citadelfoundations.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/parallel-blueprint-to-victory.html

    Persecutions may purify by fire, but only in solid loyalty, brotherhood, and opposition, can this fire bring about the forgery of an iron foundation. We must in almost every sense replicate the Muslim model in Europe: Apart from society. Against society.

     
  23. oogenhand

    July 9, 2015 at 2:33 pm

    Are the following laws ceremonial, or do Christians have the right to lend money against interest to non-Christians:

    Exodus 22 : 25

    If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor by thee, thou shalt not be to him as an usurer, neither shalt thou lay upon him usury.

    Leviticus 25 :35-37

    And if thy brother be waxen poor, and fallen in decay with thee; then thou shalt relieve him; yea, though he be a stranger, or a sojourner; that he may live with thee.
    Take thou no usury of him, or increase; but fear thy God; that thy brother may live with thee.
    Thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury, nor lend him thy victuals for increase.

    Deuteronomy 23 : 19-20

    Thou shalt not lend upon usury to thy brother; usury of money, usury of victuals, usury of anything that is lent upon usury.
    Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thy shalt not lend upon usury; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thy hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

     
  24. Mark Citadel

    July 9, 2015 at 7:23 pm

    oogenhand – You may find Zippy Catholic’s treatment of the subject very interesting. He has a free ebook, very well researched in faq format with regard to usury:

    https://zippycatholic.wordpress.com/2015/01/14/usury-ebook-download/

     
  25. ray

    July 10, 2015 at 1:26 am

    ‘With regard to TradYouth – its a dead end organization invented by a bunch of white supremacists who wanted to seem original by acting Reactionary. As usual, it was entirely focused on Jews, as if this hasn’t crippled the Right from responding to myriad other threats in the past.’

    Invalidated much of the Right, in many ways. Especially at grass-roots levels, providing ready excuses/scapegoats for not facing those (often very close) threats and issues. And the infestation of Judaism by leftism, feminism, clique materialism, kabbalic secularism… it fans the joo-obsessions. Tedious. Cheers.

     
  26. Senghendrake

    July 10, 2015 at 11:20 am

    “And the infestation of Judaism by leftism, feminism, clique materialism, kabbalic secularism… it fans the joo-obsessions. Tedious. Cheers.”

    Jews are an issue only insofar as they are not Jewish monotheists, but rather secular high-octane leftists who’ve never so much as breathed upon a Torah and who would be hung from the nearest lamppost in a country actually run by King David.

    As for as I’m concerned, there *is* an underlying cause to our current predicament of Cultural Marxism et al, but it’s more due to Early Modern philosophical mistakes and their logical outcomes (materialism, solipsism, relativism) than due to a conscious Jewish conspiracy. This is why I find it hard to take some of the people over at TheRightStuff seriously.

     
  27. Mark Citadel

    July 12, 2015 at 6:59 pm

    Jews in general are not good news. Just like blacks are not good news. They have a different metaphysical and spiritual makeup to Occidental peoples, and so react in a volatile way when placed within even partially Occidental structures. While blacks tend to devolve into a kind of primitive chimpanzee class looting stores and living off of handouts, Jews manipulate the system and become very rich and influential, often then working to the detriment of the native people.
    (See European Jewish support for the ‘multiculturalism’ project.)

    As usual, the ethno-state ideal solves all problems. Send people back to their homelands. Wash your hands of them.

     
  28. oogenhand

    July 21, 2015 at 4:31 am

    I didn’t quote the Talmud, the Zohar, Haaretz and other stuff best read in Hebrew, but simply the plain old Old Testament. The implications for Dominionism/Calvinism are far more relevant than speculations about Jewish conspiracies.

     

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