Gregoire vs Valenti

25 Feb

Yep. “I can’t see the difference. Can you see the difference?”, to borrow the famous line from some old Canadian ABC detergent ads.


Rollo commented on the similarities between Sheila Gregoire and Jessica Valenti, founder of Feministing.

Let’s play the one degree of feminist separation:

“But…I’m not a feminist. I’m a Strong Independent Christian Woman®”

I touched on this in the original post, but it is worth showing a few bits side by side. The similarity between Gregoire’s funeral sandwich rant in Faith Today and Valenti’s Christmas rant at The Guardian is uncanny:

Valenti on feminist resentment: (actual title) No, I will NOT wrap all the presents. Why are women still responsible for the holiday joy?

Gregoire on feminist resentment:  (paraphrase) No, I will NOT make all the sandwiches. Why are women still responsible for feeding mourners?


Valenti on gendered expectations:

We all know that women do the majority of domestic work like child care, housework and cooking. But the holidays bring on a whole new set of gendered expectations…

Gregoire on…

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Posted by on February 25, 2015 in Uncategorized


25 responses to “Gregoire vs Valenti

  1. Sanne

    February 25, 2015 at 3:47 pm

    She has much worse posts than this one. That particular post actually makes sense, few women stay home nowadays, and those who do are constantly pushed into all sorts of activities so that their own families suffer.

  2. Will S.

    February 25, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    I have no doubt that she has worse posts, but it is interesting how similar her arguments sound to those put forth by secular feminists.

  3. Sanne

    February 25, 2015 at 6:00 pm

    Secular feminists demand that men take over traditional female tasks, in the case of Ms Gregoire she actually never states openly what is it exactly that she wants, which kinda makes her post open to all sorts of conclusions, I agree.

  4. Will S.

    February 25, 2015 at 6:40 pm


  5. infowarrior1

    February 25, 2015 at 7:11 pm


    After all we are all equal.

  6. Sanne

    February 26, 2015 at 11:23 am

    Infowarrior, this must be a joke, right?:)

  7. Sanne

    February 26, 2015 at 3:23 pm

    I can’t keep silent… have you all read her article where she advises women whose husbands watch Game of Thrones to kick them out of the bedroom? I mentioned it on my own blog. Forget the sandwiches, this is the real thing!

  8. Will S.

    February 26, 2015 at 3:25 pm

    I missed that, Sanne, but I’m not surprised; I’ve been following Dalrock’s exposes of her for some years now. Nothing anyone could tell me she says can surprise me anymore, alas…

  9. Will S.

    February 26, 2015 at 3:34 pm

    Ah, okay, it’s your latest post, saw it now.

  10. Sanne

    February 26, 2015 at 3:40 pm

    Well, since I avoid MSM like a plague I sometimes think that all those men exxagerate and that such women don´t exist, so I went out and checked for myself;)

  11. Will S.

    February 26, 2015 at 3:45 pm

    Now you know! 🙂

  12. Sanne

    February 26, 2015 at 3:58 pm

    In all honesty, I don´t know whether it is a feminist thing or simply an American Evangelical one. I hesitated to mention it, but I´m convinced that this is a sort of advice which can be very detrimental to marital relationship.

  13. Will S.

    February 26, 2015 at 4:12 pm

    It’s both, as Dalrock and Rollo’s commentaries point out. American Evangelicalism IS feminist.

  14. Will S.

    February 26, 2015 at 4:14 pm

    I’ve never been married, but I am sure you’re right, that women applying the tactics which Ms. Gregoire advises her readers to deploy, could well destabilize marriages.

  15. Sanne

    February 26, 2015 at 4:38 pm

    May be American men don´t mind:) A Dutch man would tell you to get lost, usually.

  16. infowarrior1

    February 26, 2015 at 7:08 pm


    But then American men are at the behest of the government that takes his wife’s side. And punishes him for acting as the head of the household would act. Here is a mere figurehead here.

  17. Sanne

    February 27, 2015 at 10:31 am

    P.S. She seems to have reworded the post, now instead of suggesting that the husband leaves she says the wife should threaten to leave together with the kids. It’s a pity I don’t have a screenshot of the original version.

  18. Will S.

    February 27, 2015 at 10:37 am

    Huh. How telling, her dishonest re-working of the original post, to make it say something quite different.

    Typical leftist, progressive ploy. That an ostensible Christian woman is using it speaks volumes about her true character…

  19. Sanne

    February 27, 2015 at 10:53 am

    She probably got criticised so decided to change it, Still I’m not sure that the change is for the better. Sounds rather drastic to me:) But honestly, again I’m not that sure it male vs female issue, since American Evangelicals seem to be very upset about certain things which Europeans find normal, like drinking wine, for instance.

  20. Will S.

    February 27, 2015 at 10:57 am

    Yes, evangelicals on this continent do go off the deep end about drinking, smoking, etc.

  21. Eric

    February 27, 2015 at 12:19 pm

  22. Will S.

    February 27, 2015 at 3:16 pm

    Ah, good ol’ GBFM, in his prime. 🙂

  23. infowarrior1

    February 28, 2015 at 2:08 am


    Yes its a joke.


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