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Mecca today has become more of a touristy destination, complete with pilgrims taking lots of selfies

20 Oct

Islam’s holiest city has capitulated to the forces of modernity. (Which doesn’t surprise me, given other examples of progressivism’s inroads into the Islamic world; see here, here, here, and here, for a few of them…)

From Chuck Shepherd’s ‘News of the Weird’:

“Selfie fever” has begun to sully the sacred Islamic pilgrimages to Mecca, according to scholars who complained to Arab News in September. What for centuries has been a hallowed journey intended to renew the spirit of Islam (that all Muslims are called upon to experience at least once) has become, for some in the so-called “Facebook era,” more resembling trip to Disneyland, with visitors to the Sacred Mosque texting friends the “evidence” of their piety. (Another scholar complained in a New York Times opinion piece in October that Mecca is often experienced more as a packaged tour by marketers, centered around Mecca’s upscale shopping malls rather than religious structures.) [Arab News, 9-30-2014; New York Times, 10-1-2014]

 

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25 responses to “Mecca today has become more of a touristy destination, complete with pilgrims taking lots of selfies

  1. infowarrior1

    October 20, 2014 at 2:38 am

    Is ISIS the reaction to being pussywhipped?

     
  2. Will S.

    October 20, 2014 at 2:44 am

    Maybe.

    Remember, all the years under Ba’athist ideology in both Iraq and Syria, Islamic fundamentalism was suppressed; the regime were secularist. And women had the same social freedoms in Iraq as they do in the west; they dressed like Western women, they worked outside the home, even as engineers…

    Perhaps IS is a reaction against all that…

     
  3. oogenhand

    October 20, 2014 at 6:41 am

    Reblogged this on oogenhand.

     
  4. Will S.

    October 20, 2014 at 9:23 am

    @ infowarrior1: Oh good! Let’s hope they neutralize each other, and both leave the Assyrians alone; normally both Arabs and Kurds oppress our Assyrian brethren…

     
  5. sfcton

    October 20, 2014 at 11:03 am

    my money is the ladies opposing issi is all eye wash for the West. Historically you are in a very bad place and very likely to lose if you have lady war fighters…. which I cannot even type with a straight face

     
  6. sfcton

    October 20, 2014 at 12:56 pm

    yea its weird but I think the intent is to show how they’ll fight to the last man and beyond if invaded….. my experience is hajjis do not value women and children enough to defend them against bad odds. And that made me realize I have been playing lead tag with hajjis o0ff and on since 1990.

    I worked with the jews on occasion as well; no women in direct combat roles despite the rumors and stories.

     
  7. infowarrior1

    October 20, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    @Will S. Ton

    Well since the YPG and pkk are feminists the kurdish women volunteered to fight Assad in offensive operations against Syria:
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/witw/articles/2013/09/10/female-commanders-lead-syria-s-kurdish-rebels-in-fight-against-assad.html#

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/01/22/uk-syria-kurdistan-women-idUKBREA0L18920140122

    They in no way did this against their will:
    ”Ahin says that on trips home she is sparking heated debates about women’s rights with her brothers and father, who bristle at her critiques of male-dominated society.”

     
  8. infowarrior1

    October 20, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    @ Will S. sfcton

    In other words its not an act of desperation but that of militant feminism in their quest for “sexual equality”

    They are the classic hard-communists that characterized the 20th century.

     
  9. A.B Prosper

    October 20, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    This isn’t a bad thing. It might have the effect of mellowing out their societies especially when combined with the low birth rates such as those in Iran and the decline the rest of the region is having.

     
  10. Will S.

    October 20, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    @ A.B.: Yes, don’t get me wrong; it’s probably good for us, to see our civilizational enemies go astray.

    But I still am sorry for them, even so.

     
  11. Will S.

    October 20, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    @ infowarrior1: Volunteers, eh? Interesting.

     
  12. infowarrior1

    October 20, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    @Will S.

    Its like the amazons myth come to life.

     
  13. Will S.

    October 20, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    No doubt. 🙂

     
  14. Will S.

    October 20, 2014 at 10:34 pm

    I thought that was ‘Wonder Woman‘… 😉

     
  15. infowarrior1

    October 20, 2014 at 10:36 pm

    “We want a natural society, a society that revolves around women– one where men and women are equal, a society without pressure, without inequality, where all differences between people are eliminated”
    says Rengin(woman commander) head of the female battalion of the “Kurdistan workers party” or the PKK
    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/10/06/iraq.pkk/index.html?eref=onion

     
  16. infowarrior1

    October 20, 2014 at 10:38 pm

    @Will S.

    “A society which revolves around women-where men and women are equal”

    Lol Female logic 🙂

     
  17. infowarrior1

    October 20, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    @Will S.
    Wonder women at least is not a ballbuster. Unlike the woman I quoted earlier.

     
  18. Will S.

    October 20, 2014 at 10:49 pm

    Yeah, that’s radical egalitarianism there, all right…

    IOW, female supremacism, as radical egalitarianism always morphs into…

     
  19. alcestiseshtemoa

    October 29, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    Does that mean I can visit Mecca and do selfies too? 🙂

     
  20. alcestiseshtemoa

    October 29, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    Maybe this explains the rise of the ISIS organization.

     
  21. Will S.

    October 29, 2014 at 11:10 pm

    As long as you’re Muslim, alcest.

    But you’re not, are you?

    No kaafirs allowed in Mecca!

    The Ba’athists are why ISIS exists; whether Saddam Hussein or Hafez al-Assad, both were strongmen who rabidly pursued a secularist, socialist policy; ISIS is a reaction against both.

     
  22. Will S.

    October 29, 2014 at 11:11 pm

    (Or was; I know, both are long gone, but still, surely ISIS was and is a reaction against that.)

     

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