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German Committee Claims Incest Is a ‘Fundamental Right’

29 Sep

German Committee Claims Incest Is a ‘Fundamental Right’.

Laws banning incest between brothers and sisters in Germany could be scrapped after a government ethics committee said that they were an unacceptable intrusion into the right to sexual self-determination.

“Criminal law is not the appropriate means to preserve a social taboo,” the German Ethics Council said in a statement. “The fundamental right of adult siblings to sexual self-determination is to be weighed more heavily than the abstract idea of protection of the family.”

Their intervention follows a notorious case in which a brother and sister living as partners in Saxony had four children together. The couple had been raised separately and only met when the brother, identified only as Patrick S, was an adult, and his sister Susan K was 16.

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29 responses to “German Committee Claims Incest Is a ‘Fundamental Right’

  1. Will S.

    September 29, 2014 at 12:04 am

    Reblogged this on Will S.' Culture War Blog.

     
  2. infowarrior1

    September 29, 2014 at 1:35 am

    When the law against homosexuality fell its only a matter of time.

     
  3. Will S.

    September 29, 2014 at 1:50 am

    No doubt.

     
  4. memoirandremains

    September 29, 2014 at 2:11 am

    Reblogged this on memoirandremains and commented:
    This presses some fundamental questions of what is meant by “nature” and what is the purpose of the human body.

     
  5. Jacob

    September 29, 2014 at 4:22 am

    The committee did NOT claim that incest is a fundamental right. It claimed that “The fundamental right of adult siblings to sexual self-determination is to be weighed more heavily than the abstract idea of protection of the family.”

    Object by all means to the indirect assertion that sexual self-determination is a fundamental right, but be careful to relate the Committee’s argument honestly. They are making an argument about the legal weighting of two occasionally conflicting paradigms, which is precisely what a government ethics committee is supposed to do. A secular government must have clear ethical weighting to legislate effectively for or against any event.

     
  6. infowarrior1

    September 29, 2014 at 8:22 am

    @Jacob

    I will have to agree with you there.

     
  7. Will S.

    September 29, 2014 at 9:57 am

    @ Jacob, infowarrior1: Well, as you can see, I just copied the headline of the article exactly as it read; actually, I ‘Pressed’ it – they use WordPress, and have that feature – and though I could have taken the time to edit it to make it more precise, I guess I didn’t think it important enough a distinction to bother. Perhaps I should have. Oh well.

     
  8. Peter Blood

    September 29, 2014 at 12:07 pm

    The greatest good in our decadent degenerate civilization is to be able to rub your genitals; anytime, anywhere, with anything. Much else, like this incident, follows. They are all about liberty (below the belt).

     
  9. rationalcalvinist

    September 29, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    Everyone is already thinking it: legalized polygamy and bestiality are next.

     
  10. Will S.

    September 29, 2014 at 2:51 pm

    Welcome to Patriactionary, rationalcalvinist.

    Indeed; polygamy, especially. Bestiality, they’d run up against animal rights activists; some, anyway; no doubt the crazier ones would argue ‘consensual relationships’ are possible (some already have argued thus).

     
  11. Peter Blood

    September 29, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    Everyone is already thinking it: legalized polygamy and bestiality are next.

    Then what? It can get worse. Got to stay ahead of the curve.

     
  12. Will S.

    September 29, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    I think we do well not to peer too deeply into that abyss…

     
  13. Jacob

    September 29, 2014 at 8:37 pm

    What’s next? Murdering ‘loser’ babies post-partum, systematically outlawing phenotypic behavioural expression of the Y-chromosome, selecting breeder males on the basis of sexual adequacy, building prisons to house and re-masculate the breeding stock.

    Nope. Will never happen.

     
  14. Will S.

    September 29, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    That is indeed, of course, what progs always say, “That’ll never happen!”

     
  15. Eric

    September 29, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    I always take progs at their word. When they publish books with titles like “Are Men Necessary?” there isn’t much doubt about their intentions.

     
  16. Peter Blood

    September 29, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    Lobotomies will be resurrected. Or they’ll just commit us to psych wards and run Mengele experiments on us.

     
  17. Will S.

    September 29, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    @ Eric: Yep.

    @ PB: I can see it…

     
  18. forgottenpaths

    September 30, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    This is what I’ve been arguing for a long time. I remember a woman seething at me when I told her that the reasons for same-sex marriage LOGICALLY lead to approval of other types of “marriages” including polygamy and incest. Apparently I am a bigot for pointing out this logic. And now look, It’s happening…

     
  19. Will S.

    September 30, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    The ‘slippery slope’ argument is always pooh-poohed by progressives – but it’s usually later seen to have been correct, in many if not most instances…

     
  20. rationalcalvinist

    September 30, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    Reblogged this on The Rational Calvinist.

     
  21. rationalcalvinist

    September 30, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    I read not too long ago on the Daily Mail about a woman who married her dog after a failed marriage. I’ll dig it up and post it on my blog. Of course it wasn’t sanctioned by the state…yet.

     
    • Will S.

      September 30, 2014 at 4:08 pm

      That sounds familiar; I may have read it, too.

       
  22. Eric

    September 30, 2014 at 11:54 pm

    Calvinist:
    A woman married a dolphin a few years back in Australia. I think I remember reading a year or two ago that’s now widowed, Mr. Flipper having gone to that great SeaWorld in the Sky, or whatever Heaven dolphins pass on to.

    There was a funeral for him and everything.

     
    • Will S.

      September 30, 2014 at 11:56 pm

      I remember that, too.

       

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