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And this is why you shouldn’t listen to Joel Osteen…

22 Sep

He does not know Scripture.

From the first source:

Lakewood Church pastor Joel Osteen made a faux pas this week when an inspiration message posted to his extremely popular ministry Facebook page suggested that Moses was alive during Joshua’s leadership and even when the prophet Daniel was taken into Babylonian captivity.

“God said in Numbers 11:23, ‘Moses, is there any limit to My power?'” reads the Bible-inspired message on the Joel Osteen Ministry Facebook page.

The JOM Facebook page moderator goes on to suggest of God: “He was saying, ‘Moses, you saw Me part the Red Sea, stop the sun for Joshua, keep three Hebrew teenagers safe in a fiery furnace, don’t you realize that I can bring water without rain?’ There’s no limit to God’s power.”

While the Sept. 15 post received 317,239 “likes” and was shared more than 52,000 times, many of Osteen’s 8,566,169 Facebook followers noticed the error.

“Joel you need to know God’s word,” admonished Keith Mays. “Moses was not there when God stopped the sun for Joshua or the three teenagers in the fiery furnace they happened after God took Moses up on Mount Sinai to die for his disbelief.”

Leslie FitzGerald Jones took a similar, though softer tone in her correction.

“Um… the sun stopped for Joshua and Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego were delivered from the fire after Moses was already dead. Does anyone actually READ the Bible? What Joel says is true. There is no limit to God’s power. But Moses did not witness these events. Please read Scripture for yourself and be careful where you get your information.””

From the second source:

Author and megachurch speaker Joel Osteen raised eyebrows this week when he wrote on his popular Facebook page that Moses was present to see the sun stand still under Joshua’s leadership and that he witnessed the Hebrew boys being thrown into the fiery furnace.

“God said in Numbers 11:23, ‘Moses, is there any limit to My power?’ Osteen, leader of the 43,000 member Lakewood Church, posted on Monday, and then proceeded to expound. “He was saying, ‘Moses, you saw Me part the Red Sea, stop the sun for Joshua, keep three Hebrew teenagers safe in a fiery furnace, don’t you realize that I can bring water without rain?’ There’s no limit to God’s power.”

The status received over 317,000 likes from his more than 8 million followers, and was shared over 52,000 times. A number of followers also agreed heartily with Osteen’s teaching in the comments section.

However, some began to notice that there was something not quite right about Osteen’s statement: Moses was dead when two out of the three cited events occurred.

“People! Moses was long dead before any of these things happened!” one commenter named Josh wrote. “You actually trust this man to be a solid teacher when he doesn’t even know something this basic?”

“Moses wasn’t even around when the sun stood still for Joshua; by that time, Moses was dead. And neither was he around when the Hebrew boys were put in the furnace,” wrote another named Leah. “Joel Osteen Ministries and the rest of y’all who gave them an amen, do any of y’all even read the Bible?”

A follower named Pamela also caught a third error in Osteen’s statement: Moses wasn’t seeking God for water in Numbers 11, but rather food.

“Moses wasn’t praying for rain, the people of Israel were asking for meat instead of manna in Numbers 11:23,” she wrote.

While all agreed that Osteen’s exhortation that “there is no limit to God’s power” is true, some were concerned about the megachurch leader’s knowledge of the Scriptures.

“You’d think a preacher of all people would know what’s actually in the Bible,” wrote a commenter named Steven. “Apparently that’s just wayyyy too much to ask.”

But others were also concerned that hundreds of thousands of followers saw nothing wrong with Osteen’s post.

“Oh man, 314,021 likes,” wrote a commenter named Alex.

“The same people who think Joel Osteen is a legitimate teacher of God’s word are the same people who, like him, either don’t read the Bible or read it with flawed, man-centered presuppositions,” added a man named Joshua. “This guy has been teaching for how long? How many people have liked this post?”

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8 responses to “And this is why you shouldn’t listen to Joel Osteen…

  1. Lena S.

    September 22, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    I thought the main reason for not listening to him is his treacly delivery and the fact that he looks like Richard Gere gone wrong.

     
  2. Will S.

    September 22, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    Also a good reason; that fake slimy smile is enough for me. 🙂

     
  3. sfcton

    September 23, 2014 at 9:22 am

    Happily I have no idea who this is.

     
  4. Will S.

    September 23, 2014 at 9:47 am

    Lucky you!

     
  5. feeriker

    October 3, 2014 at 12:22 am

    That such an obvious huckster-fraud as Osteen has.any kind of following just serves as more evidence of how dubious is the assertion that humans are the most intelligent of mammals.

     

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