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Marvel Comics to make Thor a woman, Captain America black

17 Jul

See here and here.

What I’m wondering is, which straight major character is Marvel going to next make gay / lesbian, and which ‘cisgendered’ major character will they make ‘transgendered’?

Because you know that’s next – unless DC Comics beats them to it… (Instead of Superman, Supertran! 😉 )

*Update: The Bechtloff provides some perspective in his comment below where he links to a related post of his.

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Posted by on July 17, 2014 in Brave New World Order, The Kulturkampf

 

22 responses to “Marvel Comics to make Thor a woman, Captain America black

  1. The Bechtloff

    July 17, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    Marvel does replacement characters like this a lot. They always say it will be permanent but it never is. Sometimes if the replacement character is popular they get their own identity (like the replacement Iron Man becoming War Machine) but this isn’t nearly the big deal people are making it out to be. I did a post a while back spotlighting some of these characters, I suspect the new Thor and Cap will be no different.
    http://landsharkattacks.blogspot.com/2012/09/marvel-derivative-characters.html

     
  2. Will S.

    July 17, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    Ah. Thanks for your perspective! I will update the post, pointing to your comment and your post.

     
  3. ray

    July 17, 2014 at 10:34 pm

    This has nothing to do with commerce — or even the success of the film — as some commenters imagine. This decision wasn’t made at the creative level. It’s just more mocking emasculations of the American male, as part of this nation’s ongoing psychological and spiritual warfare against fatherhood, masculinity, and God.

    It’s such a pathetic move, and would be laughable if these punks didn’t rule the nation’s institutions.

     
    • Will S.

      July 17, 2014 at 10:38 pm

      And yet it’s a business doing it, not a government initiative; presumably they HOPE to make money from it, somehow…

       
  4. The Bechtloff

    July 17, 2014 at 10:54 pm

    I just found out the new black Cap is Sam Wilson, AKA the Falcon who has been a long time friend and partner to Cap, so he makes sense as someone to fill his shoes.

    Again though, everyone is blowing things out of proportion here. Thor isn’t turning into a woman, and even if he was weirder things had happened, he was turned into a frog for a while after all. This is a woman taking over his role while he is out of commission. And women have held Thor’s hammer before, most notably Storm from the X-Men. This new female Thor story line might be all annoyingly girl-powery, or it might be an interesting change of pace for a while, that all depends on how good the writer is really. Either way neither of these changes are any sort of big deal. Let’s not go looking for ways to be offended, leave that sort of oversensitive nonsense to lefty social justice warriors, we’re better than this on the right.

     
    • Will S.

      July 17, 2014 at 11:37 pm

      Sound advice, I think.

       
  5. Eric

    July 18, 2014 at 1:13 am

    Actually, the new ‘Thor’ character already looks like a male in drag. As for the new Captain America—well, since modern Academia teaches things like that the Buffalo Soldiers won the Civil War singlehandedly and that slaves were freed and equality won without the slightest help from white people—why not? The Ameroboobs will never know the difference!

     
  6. Eric

    July 18, 2014 at 1:16 am

    Ray & Will:
    I think Ray has a point. I think that these people don’t care about losing profits. There was once a publicized Madison Avenue maxim that if 80% of a consumer base ‘goes along’ with a change, than the other 20% don’t count.

     
  7. Will S.

    July 18, 2014 at 1:30 am

    I’m not sure what to think.

    Losing 20% of profits can be enough to make heads roll at a company…

     
  8. ray

    July 18, 2014 at 3:28 pm

    Yeah, stop being so Oversensitive! Stop mansplaining. It’s just a comic book, or a movie, or a university code, or a law, after all. Stop pointing out when The Cathedral chips away at the vestiges of a once-healthy culture.

    That’s great advice. It sure has worked wonders over the past forty years.

     
  9. thebechtloff

    July 18, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    I would argue it was getting worked up over crap that doesn’t really matter rather than the actual important stuff that has “worked wonders over the past 40 years” for the right.

     
  10. Will S.

    July 18, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    @ ray: Business may be part of the Cathedral, certainly, but their main consideration tends to be the bottom line, what they think will sell. Now, they no doubt do encourage negative trends to start, if they see potential profit in them. But once they’re rolling, they probably don’t give much thought beyond, “Will this sell; is there a market / audience for this? Great; let’s do it!”

    They can be a huge force for evil, but it is the State, today, that is the much greater evil, surely… Because government doesn’t have to worry about the bottom line, or even all that much about fiscal accountability. And so ideologues can run rampant, and promote progressivism through the power of the State, to their heart’s content (though their wicked hearts are never content).

    @ The Bechtloff: Indeed. Feminism has been enabled by neoconservatism…

     
  11. Eric

    July 18, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    Bechtloff:
    Let’s put it this way: why don’t you see female and minority superheroes being changed into white males?

    And as for the ‘Thor’ character: why was there a need to make a female replacement character? Doesn’t Thor have any brothers or male friends? I tend to agree with Ray, there are messages being sent here.

     
  12. Eric

    July 18, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    Will:
    Remember just recently that several corporate heads have rolled for speaking out against ‘gay rights’. When a major stockholder at Starbucks objected to their blatant support for ‘Pride Week’ he was told to take his stocks and go elsewhere.

    If we had a truly competitive free-market economy, you would be right about profit being the ‘bottom line’. But when Corporate America has virtual monopolies, they can push agendas without any fear of consequences.

     
  13. Will S.

    July 18, 2014 at 11:14 pm

    @ Eric: Oh, certainly; I’ve not forgotten how conformist to the zeitgeist corporations are becoming; it’s just that I’m not convinced that they’re doing it because they actually believe in it themselves to the extent government zealots do; I think that they (a) think they’re responding to the marketplace, giving consumers what they want; and/or (b) desperately trying to avoid the appearance of ‘discriminating’ against anyone, so instead they bend over backwards to avoid negative press, boycotts, lawsuits from disgruntled employees who claim discrimination, etc.

    I think this is how the Cathedral gets its agenda promoted through corporations; not by direct control, but by indirect and/or direct pressures. Maybe I’m mistaken or naïve, though. 🙂

     
  14. Alex Neo

    July 19, 2014 at 10:48 pm

    Still, it wont make these aging comics relevant. Although it may accelerate their decline, so that’s some good news.

     
  15. Will S.

    July 19, 2014 at 11:37 pm

    I’m not really a big comics guy, so I don’t have a dog in this fight; I just find it interesting, and potentially revealing, about our society today, though as has been pointed out, not necessarily…

     
  16. sfcton

    July 20, 2014 at 11:49 am

    Makes perfect sense to me, this is no longer a nation for White men so it’s supper hero’s should reflect the reality

     
  17. Will S.

    July 20, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    It’s all about marketing, surely…

     
  18. Will S.

    July 20, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    Interesting:

    Opposition to a black Captain American didn’t come only from white comic book fans, though. Black radio personality Charlamagne tweeted about the changes and, when asked about his take, replied that he just likes keeping characters the way they were written.

     
  19. Will S.

    July 20, 2014 at 8:06 pm

    Though, last time I checked, Bill Cosby is a real person, not a fictional character. 🙂

     

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