No-tip restaurants fight to gain traction

13 May

I’ve long wondered why Canada and the U.S. are so different from our white English-speaking sister nations in this.

Will S.' Sunny Side Blog

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Posted by on May 13, 2014 in America, Canada


9 responses to “No-tip restaurants fight to gain traction

  1. Zoyd Wheeler

    May 13, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    Waitstaff tend to be girls and gays. They *like* the uncertainty of depending on unpredictable tips. They like the lottery aspect of it. They like the customers better if they’re dependent on earning the customers’ good will, because girls and gays like being in a subservient position.

    As for me, I’m not sure I’d prefer it. I tip well, but I like having a threat point. The restaurant biz is a nest of maniacs, dipsos, and whores. A credible threat focuses what few rational neurons they’ve got. I wouldn’t want them getting an entitled clock-punching mentality.

    No tipping works in Japan; I once had a charming young waitress chase me down the street with the money I’d “accidentally” left on the table. But the Japanese are Japanese. They’re different. I don’t think it would work in America.

    I’d be happy to be proven wrong though.

  2. Will S.

    May 13, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    I’d love to try it; see if we can make it work.

  3. Eric

    May 13, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    The morons here in Seattle are fighting for a $15 minimum wage. I wonder who’ll pay their welfare checks when they drive everyone out of business? They won’t even be able to get service jobs (assuming they wanted to work in the first place) anymore because no one can afford to hire them and those having those jobs now won’t have the same turnover they used to have.

    The problem is not that wages are too low—the cost of living is too high. And it’s being inflated by the welfare state which offers consumption without corresponding production. But these Libtards can’t see the relationship between the two.

  4. Will S.

    May 14, 2014 at 12:13 am


  5. DW3

    May 14, 2014 at 3:59 am

    Howdy. First time I’ve felt inclined to comment here, but I’ve been a reader of your blogs for some time now.

    I don’t agree with your take on this topic: making restaurants more bureaucratic would not add to the appeal for me. I’ve both worked for and run service industry businesses in the past, so the tipping issue is one that I’m familiar with. There are definitely some dishonest people who don’t fairly split up the tip-out amongst kitchen staff, I’ve met my share of them.

    You can count me amongst those who would abolish the minimum wage to stop pricing the least skilled out of the labor market, and who also encourage generous tipping when almost any service is provided.

    There were many months in my past when I relied on my tips to be able to pay my bills and family law support obligations, so I can’t claim to be an unbiased analyst of this topic.

  6. Will S.

    May 14, 2014 at 8:33 am

    Hey DW3, welcome to commenting. 🙂

    You are probably aware that in countries like Australia, tipping is not part of the culture; nor is it in Asian countries like Taiwan. In fact, at Chinese restaurants which cater to their own, rather than us ‘gwai-lo’ types, here in North America, they still don’t tip.

    Somehow, restaurants that follow that business model are able to stay open, and even thrive. Do you not think that such a model is potentially transportable to the mainstream North American market? I’d like to think it’s possible.

  7. Wizard Prang

    May 16, 2014 at 10:08 am

    Having lived in both Britain and the US – and choosing to live in the latter, I can say that eating out is far cheaper in the US than in the UK. And the experience is far better.

    While initially skeptical of the idea of tipping, I ave found that it works better than the alternative. It is how good service is rewarded and bad service is persuaded to find something else to do with their lives.

    In a restaurant where waitstaff are paid the same whether they provide good service of bad, few are altruistic enough to give of their best nor no additional reward.

  8. Will S.

    May 16, 2014 at 10:13 am

    Interesting. I visited the U.K. in 2008 (Northern Ireland), and at the time, the prices of food items in number of pounds sterling each seemed similar to the prices in Canadian dollars for similar items here, except for booze which was much less. But then, prices here ARE more expensive than Stateside…


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