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Don’t blame women for creating feminism

31 Aug

How, you wonder, does feminism get established in a patriarchal society? There are any number of manospherians who claim that women agitated for and created feminism. I prefer to think of Solomon II’s aphorism that feminism is how alpha men control beta men by proxy.

So it is instructive to consider India, a culture that has survived for thousands of years, and whose population will soon be the largest in the world, by itself outnumbering the plant’s “European” peoples in Europe, the Americas, and Australasia. A recent op-ed in the New York Times illustrates the point. A woman with child (we detest Latin terms like “pregnant” around here) writes to her unborn son, apologizing in advance for turning him into a woman’s lickspittle:

“It’s a change that must begin in our homes,” I wrote to my son. “For generations we’ve secretly watched intelligent, imaginative and hugely-talented grandmothers, grandaunts, mothers, sisters, wives and daughters pushed into the background, purely on account of their gender. So, it’s no surprise that our women are now pushing all the boundaries in their own little worlds. We didn’t and don’t want to be left behind. But as a boy who will one day grow up to be a man [Ed: don’t count on it!], I hope you will have the courage to respect all women, whoever they may be.”

Respect all women, eh? Gee, I wonder what could go wrong with that? She also says:

Does an Indian woman’s right to respect come only by virtue of her ability to reproduce? If we don’t conform to the Indian man’s ideal of a motherly avatar, are we to be reduced to objects of flesh? And what of the millions of foreign travellers who pass through the country and leave with at least one harrowing tale of public sexual harassment?

Now, women have much greater utility than simple reproduction; anyone with a brain knows that, and only a brainless feminist constructing a strawman would argue thus. Of course, what this Indian woman writer seeks is to do well in an area where she has no absolute advantage. I always think of what Gavin McInnes writes about this:

Today’s feminists actually resent what it is to be a woman. They resent the ability to give life. Ooooooh kaaaaaaye.

The irony is, by discrediting all it is to be a female and trying desperately to prove they are just as male as most men, they become the textbook definition of a misogynist. No ladies, you’re not as good at fractions as us and you can’t bench press as much as us. So fucking what. YOU’RE MAGIC. Living beings that populate the world come out of your body. You’re a magic alien with super powers that we all need to exist. Now you want to beat me at checkers, too? It’s like me sitting at a bar and telling Superman, “I know way more about punk seven inches than you AND I am way better at making pant jokes than you. Therefore, I’m better.” Then he says, “Oh yeah?” And goes flying out the top of the bar knocking ten foot holes in every floor he goes through. Then he flies to Mars and gets some huge rock nobody’s ever heard of. Then he brings it back and puts it on the bar and says, “Nigga, you’re not even in the same league as me.” To which I would respond, “Oh.”

However, women are taught never to discuss their superpowers. In fact, they are vilified for succumbing to them.

Anyhoo, back to the point. India appears to be a VERY sexist, patriarchal place: the horror! How, one asks, does the author propose to make it more woman-friendly?

(W)hat India desperately needs is a women’s revolution, led by men. Fathers, sons, grandfathers, brothers, uncles, nephews, boyfriends, husbands, lovers who are comfortable with the rise of their women. Men who don’t feel emasculated by the success of their women. Men who don’t need to demonstrate their physical dominance privately, when they’re unable to match their women’s achievements in the public sphere. Men who are happy to step back and watch their women lead the way.

Her granddaughter won’t like the result.

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11 Comments

Posted by on August 31, 2013 in Uncategorized

 

11 responses to “Don’t blame women for creating feminism

  1. infowarrior1

    August 31, 2013 at 7:55 pm

    The MGTOW’s have an opinion on why patriarchies fail from the onslaught of feminism:

     
  2. zhai2nan2

    September 1, 2013 at 1:00 am

    >(W)hat India desperately needs is a women’s revolution, led by men. Fathers, sons, grandfathers, brothers, uncles, nephews, boyfriends, husbands, lovers who are comfortable with the rise of their women. Men who don’t feel emasculated by the success of their women. Men who don’t need to demonstrate their physical dominance privately, when they’re unable to match their women’s achievements in the public sphere. Men who are happy to step back and watch their women lead the way.

    Let them go ahead. Let them try.

    I doubt that such a male-led pro-feminist revolution would get very far in the first place.

    The most likely outcome would be a fierce backlash against modern ideologies, including feminism.

     
  3. oogenhand

    September 1, 2013 at 4:02 am

    What India needs is more patrilinearity. Hindu men should breed with Muslim women. This will make Hindu men more sexy in the eyes of Hindu women as well, making them shut up.

    Although it could be argued that alphas rule because women are aroused by them, if the Solomon II’s theory is true, you should AMOG the elite. E.g. declare that children of Dutch men and Saudi women are fully Dutch. The Croatian Ustashe thought that breeding with Jewish women should be allowed, and were seen as more fierce than the Nazis.

     
  4. katmandutu

    September 3, 2013 at 2:00 am

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/witw/articles/2013/04/23/india-s-rape-epidemic-no-end-in-sight.html

    Of a more pressing concern, is the culture of rape in India. With a rape committed every 20 minutes.. Particularly disturbing is the prevalence, of child rape.

    “No, I don’t think there is an end to these godawful rapes anywhere in sight. (Monday April 22 headlines: “Three more minors raped in Delhi, protests snowball” and “Brutality in MP village, 4-yr-old raped.”) No, I don’t think the protests against the police and politicians will change anything. Because I think the real problem is simultaneously wider, deeper, and infinitely more intractable than the police can ever hope to address, even if they were so inclined.

    Intractable, because the real problem is us. My fellow Indians and I and our attitudes toward the people who surround us. It’s the way we consider our fellow citizens. It’s the attitudes that permit a grown man to believe he can rape a 5-year-old and insert objects into her vagina. It’s what allows cops to imagine an acceptable response to this outrage is to offer the family 2,000 rupees—less than 40 American dollars—to go away, along with the reminder that they should “be grateful your daughter is alive.” It’s what governs the thinking of judges who, in deciding rape cases, advise the woman to marry the man.

    It is those attitudes that worry me. Almost more than these awful rapes, they make me wonder where this country has reached and where it is going.”

     
  5. oogenhand

    September 3, 2013 at 9:27 am

    Some argue that most rapes in India are done by Muslims, making it again a matter of who, whom?

     
  6. electricangel

    September 3, 2013 at 10:08 am

    @Zhai2nan2
    I doubt that such a male-led pro-feminist revolution would get very far in the first place.

    The most likely outcome would be a fierce backlash against modern ideologies, including feminism.
    It wouldn’t, because India has less built-up capital that can be used to subsidize such folly.

    But the fierce backlash? It takes years. There won’t be a backlash in the West, but a collapse. Those communities, like the Amish, that survive will re-establish the Patriarchy.

     
  7. electricangel

    September 3, 2013 at 10:16 am

    @Kat,

    Oogenhand might be on to something there. From this webpage, we get

    It is possible to compare circumcision rates by country to prevalence of male abuses toward women that include violence, repression, isolation, murder, rape, and forced marriage. The ten worst countries for women are Afghanistan, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iraq, Nepal, Sudan, Guatemala, Mali, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Somalia. Eight of these countries have a male circumcision rate that exceeds 80%. Two other countries have a rate between 20% and 80%.

     
  8. electricangel

    September 5, 2013 at 9:52 am

    @infowarrior,

    That man-jawed feminist battleaxe compared to sweetly feminine Schlafly gives you your understanding of different sides: feminism is ugly women convincing normal women to be ugly.

    Note, by the way, that Schlafly’s opposition to ERA is based upon women keeping all their current privileges, without incurring any further obligations. Would we have ended feminine privilege if ERA had passed?

     
  9. infowarrior1

    September 7, 2013 at 8:07 am

    @electriceangel

    Yes I think. But the herd will not have it. But now they demand to be in the military while the men do the fighting. The suddenness of pregnancy just before the onset of battle is a testament to that fact.

     
  10. Will S.

    September 7, 2013 at 10:11 am

    @ infowarrior: Geez, that’s a long vid. TL;DW, don’t have time; can you give me the Coles Notes synopsis?

     
  11. infowarrior1

    September 7, 2013 at 10:16 pm

    Okay I will give a shorter vid.

     

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