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Double Standards: Founding Father Style

27 Dec

Samuel Adams:

In monarchy the crime of treason may admit of being pardoned or lightly punished, but the man who dares rebel against the laws of a republic ought to suffer death.

 
13 Comments

Posted by on December 27, 2011 in Fuck Yeah!

 

13 responses to “Double Standards: Founding Father Style

  1. Will S.

    December 27, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    Why did Sam Adams think so?

    That’s absurd. If a state can have the power, with one form of government, to pardon a particular crime, why cannot, with another form, it have the same power?

    Double standard, indeed.

     
  2. Svar

    December 27, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    Looks like the Founding Fathers had Special Snowflake Syndrome.

    I like all the new categories.

     
  3. Master Po

    December 27, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    It is intrinsic to the nature of revolution that its jaws cannot be satisfied. Samuel Adams certainly was one of the more ugly warts upon that jaw.

     
  4. Will S.

    December 27, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    Foseti, who just linked this post (see above pingback), in the same link round-up, includes a link to this post here, which I think is certainly germane to this discussion.

     
  5. Svar

    December 27, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    @ Will

    I decided to return the linklove. You’re right, that is a good article.

     
  6. Master Po

    December 28, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Samuel Adams certainly was one of the more ugly warts upon that jaw.

    And the beer that bears his name isn’t all that great either!

     
  7. Will S.

    December 28, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Really? There’s more than one variety of Samuel Adams beers, and I’ve liked all the ones I’ve had, apart from their maple bock.

    But beer, of course, is a matter of personal taste.

     
  8. Master Po

    December 28, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    Master Po mean say “the beers that bear his name aren’t all that great”…

    Everything I’ve ever had from Sam Adams is always under-hopped. And basic beers (Boston Lager, Boston Ale, Fall and Winter seasonals) use overly toasted malts which gives it a distinctive, as in “I can tell it’s a Sam Adams”, but far from great flavor. In a wheat beer or a belgian ale of course, light hopping is perfectly good and right, but in traditional ales and lagers I find it rather blah. It’s better than Coors or Budweiser, but it is quite far in quality from true craft brews, which are now everywhere and about the same price.

    Plus I don’t like the name “Sam Adams”… it sends shivers up my traditionalist (monarchist) spine. It was a raving pack of MA firebrands that led this country down our current road to ruin, and Sam Adams was the firebrandiest of those firebrands. Blech.

     
  9. Svar

    December 28, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    “Plus I don’t like the name “Sam Adams”… it sends shivers up my traditionalist (monarchist) spine. It was a raving pack of MA firebrands that led this country down our current road to ruin, and Sam Adams was the firebrandiest of those firebrands. Blech.”

    Ahh, Master Po, so you’re a monarchist? So is Will. I am pro-monarchy as well but I’m also very sympathetic towards a revived Dixie Republic(Pope Pius IX did pray for the Confederacy after all). I’m basically in the same boat as the Catholic Knight.

     
  10. Will S.

    December 28, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    @ MP: I agree, they’re not as hoppy as they could be, but they’re decent, though indeed, not at craft-beer level.

    Canada doesn’t have many mid-range beers like the Sam Adams line; we have macro swill, and craft brews; few things in between. I suppose Sleeman’s might now count, but it’s about the only one.

    And yeah, I don’t care for the revolutionary ideals invoked by the brand name, either. But then, I’ve drunk Sacket’s Harbor War of 1812 Ale, which as a British North American, I probably also shouldn’t. 🙂

     
  11. Matthew

    December 29, 2011 at 12:36 am

    Master Po sounds like he knows what he is talking about, and he is welcome to help me drink and brew beer any time he is in central Texas. Though we’d have to clean all my gear first.

     
  12. Will S.

    December 29, 2011 at 12:37 am

    Yes, I’d love to go drinking with MP, either Stateside or up here; good to meet a fellow beerophile. 🙂

     

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