Women overtaking men in education and the workplace; clueless British government minister thinks they’ll ‘marry down’

18 Nov

See the Daily Mail story here.

Mr. Willetts obviously doesn’t understand hypergamy; it’s highly unlikely that economically self-sufficient, educated women will ‘marry down’ very often, but rather will compete for the men above them in salary and education.  And we Manospherians know that the few that do ‘marry down’, unless they genuinely love the men in question, will no doubt lose respect for them, and in many cases, end up divorcing them; ’tis the modern way…


Posted by on November 18, 2011 in culture, Masculinity, The Decline


14 responses to “Women overtaking men in education and the workplace; clueless British government minister thinks they’ll ‘marry down’

  1. Chris

    November 18, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Of course he will say that. He has to put a positive spin on this. But there is now an underclass of single men who have to use thug tactics to get mates… and many of them, in the UK, are Muslim.

    It will sort itself out, by the way, It will take 5 years of depression (which will get the benefits stopped and soup kitchens started) and the demographic time bomb of liberalism (reduces fertility) to kick in… but it will sort itself out.

    The problem is that it is really going to suck while it happens.

  2. Will S.

    November 18, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    I’m not so optimistic, Chris; the Muslims are breeding like rats, while Westerners are not breeding enough; I can see, in Britain, the Netherlands, and other European countries, a Muslim version of “la revanche des berceaux” playing itself out, such that the ‘dar-al-Islam’ extends to the point of even majorities of populations of European countries, whilst the ‘dar-al-Harb’ in such countries – once the centre of Christendom – declines… Europe as we know it, may die…

    But as for the main issue, with the West in general, as regards the place of women in it, that, too, I think may take longer to sort itself out than five years; that seems highly optimistic, too.

    Remember, God sometimes uses the enemies of His people to correct them; sometimes even requiring them to enter into captivity, and loss of self-rule…

  3. Will S.

    November 18, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    The Muslim underclass in the U.K. will most likely, if not seeking their own women, target mostly chav women; the others will remain protected, largely… They may, however, be prey for handsome rich Muslim devils, same as Princess Di fell for Dodi…

  4. Ulysses

    November 18, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    At the moment I’m feeling too lazy to find the stats, but I read somewhere that one of the liberal trappings the Muslims adopt is the birth rate. Of course, assuming that is correct, 1.7 kids from a large second generation family is still going to outpace the natives as they’re starting with a larger multiplier.

    In other words, I’m lazily mentioning, without citation, a mostly irrelevant angle. I say mostly because it does show how destructive liberalism is.

  5. Will S.

    November 18, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    No doubt, Ulysses, that with later generations, there is increased falling away of orthodox Muslims from the faith into secular liberalism, which, I suppose, is on balance a neutral thing from a spiritual perspective (doesn’t save their souls, after all) but a positive thing from a geopolitical / civilizational perspective (they’re removed from the external civilizational enemy camp). Yet some of the younger generations actually become more radical, it has been observed, and end up joining radical groups. If their birthrate stays even slightly higher than Westerners, therefore, it’s still problematic – esp. if multiculturalism keeps them anti-Western, identifying with their heritage if not their religion; they still remain a thorn in the side of the West, in that sense, since the secularists are also our civilization’s enemies, except internal rather than external… If multiculturalism keeps them separate rather than mixing, or if any mixed ghetto-Muslim/chav trash offspring end up radicalized, that’s also tragic…

    Let’s bring back the discussion about teh wimminz. The more highly educated and professional, the less and less marriages and therefore birthrate; in other words, the birthrate of the West will continue to drop… And insofar as we see these trends happening not only in ‘the world’ but also in the Church (because we see women in our own church circles delaying marrying and having kids in favour of education and career; I certainly do in my church circles, alas), it will not be well for us, either… IOW, things are going to get worse, overall.

    (Sorry to be Mr. Gloom and Doom here. Ah well. I remember Christ’s words of encouragement, though; “Be of good cheer; for I have overcome the world.” It will all work out in the end… But in the interim, we get to perhaps witness the decline and fall of our beloved civilization…)

  6. Will S.

    November 18, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    To lighten the mood, here’s a cheerful song, with the refrain, “Everyone’s fucked and they don’t even know.” 🙂

    (Sometimes, you’ve got to laugh, to prevent yourself from crying.)

  7. Will S.

    November 19, 2011 at 12:02 am

    This is what y’all get for having a cynical / fatalistic Celtic-Canadian Calvinist on board, heh heh. Doom and gloom AND peppy indie Canadian rock. 🙂

  8. Will S.

    November 19, 2011 at 12:05 am


  9. Will S.

    November 19, 2011 at 12:20 am

    For another dark laugh, one can’t beat the hilarious title of Dalrock’s latest (and as usual, excellent) post:

    We are trapped on Slut Island and Traditional Conservatives are our Gilligan

  10. Ulysses

    November 19, 2011 at 2:08 am

    Dammit, I had a comment get eaten and now I have to try to remember it.

    Will – I like Mark Steyn, despite his neoconservatism, for sounding the demographic time bomb alarm before it was apparent. Rather, I find Steyn’s neocon arguments to be the most persuasive. We stopped hitting the replenishment rate long ago. The Muslims did not. As such, I find myself more amenable to nation building, particularly when it involves smiting backwards nations and replacing them with parking lots. If demography is destiny, then I’ll take cauterizing demography with nukes.

  11. Will S.

    November 19, 2011 at 2:35 am

    I hope it doesn’t ever come to that, because it means our becoming monsters ourselves, if we must resort to such against them. But if they ever get their hands on nukes, I fear it might well come to that, alas.

  12. laceagate

    November 19, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    Will, you are correct in asserting that these women would divorce their husbands. A study from the Journal of Family Issues cited that if a woman brings in 60% or more of the income, she is 38% more likely to divorce.

    What is considered “more intelligent”? Does having a master’s in sociology suddenly deem a woman more intelligent, and therefore more likely to earn a greater income than a man? It is a sad day when a master’s in sociology b.s. can bring in more money than the jobs that help the world “go.” The pink ghetto will come filled with older single women, lamenting about why they don’t have husbands or children.

  13. Will S.

    November 20, 2011 at 12:05 am

    Yeah, I don’t know how they’re measuring intelligence, or if they’re just going by credentialism.

    Women rarely respect a man whose income is lower than their own.


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