Reactionary Revolutionary

14 Nov

The great game vs. MRA debate seems to have subsided, for now. Maybe they haven’t. I only paid passing attention because I don’t really care. Oops, I just wrote that out loud.

But I do find the split interesting, if not for the reasons outlined by the debaters themselves. Namely, I’m interested in the premise a not-insignificant portion of the MRA side starts from – that we need rights and activism to demand that women give us permission to be men. That is an abdication of man’s natural role, that of leader. We don’t lead our women because they give us permission, but because that’s just how it’s supposed to be, baby.

So then, what is a reactionary to do? Perhaps the proper reaction is a revolution that says we will no longer collectively frame our responses in reaction to women. Instead, we will lead and the women will react. Or to put it another way, go make us a sandwich.


Posted by on November 14, 2011 in culture, Masculinity


10 responses to “Reactionary Revolutionary

  1. Will S.

    November 14, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    The ‘rights’-type rhetoric of all too many MRAs, being the mirror image of feminism, is indeed most annoying.

    That said, in the courts, it’s the only sort of language that gets any play. And like Brendan, I do admire people like Glenn Sacks and the like, who are at least getting some results, in ‘playing by the rules’ of the ‘system.

  2. Ulysses

    November 14, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Sacks is good. I’m mainly arguing against those who take the opposite position of me but are also just internet blowhards. There is a 100% chance we’re all going to die, might as well live until then rather than be crippled by 50% chance of whatever other possibilities.

  3. Will S.

    November 14, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    Ah, okay, I hear you.

  4. CL

    November 14, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    Whole wheat or rye?

  5. Will S.

    November 14, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    Sourdough pumpernickel. And make it snappy!

  6. Savrola

    November 14, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    Paging Norman Lowell….

  7. Will S.

    November 14, 2011 at 6:58 pm


  8. Ulysses

    November 14, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    Apparently Lowell preemptively stole my riff, the bastard. His quotes are interesting.

  9. Will S.

    November 14, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    @ Ulysses: Ah, okay. Interesting individual; seems like too British a name for a Maltese man…

    @ pb: Ha! They’re learning you can’t have it all for nothing; who knew? 😉


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