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I had wondered how Brendan Eich’s donation had been found out…

04 Apr

… the donation for which he ended up paying a heavy price, thanks to progs and their litmus test of unequivocal support for ‘gay rights’ or else.

Apparently somebody in the IRS * directly leaked that information to a gay rights activist group. *Update: Not necessarily; see update below.

Your charitable donor information, if filed with the IRS, is not necessarily secure.

Best not share that with them, and forego any possible tax credits, if you’re donating to a cause which could get you fired by vengeful progs, as happened with Brendan Eich. Because, after all, which is worse, losing some thousands perhaps in a possible tax refund, or losing your job as CEO? Something to consider.

*Update: Apparently, the list of donors was always a matter of public record.

Of course, if you donate anonymously, no-one will ever know you did. My point still stands.

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18 responses to “I had wondered how Brendan Eich’s donation had been found out…

  1. Will S.

    April 4, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    Reblogged this on Will S.' Culture War Blog.

     
  2. Michael Schleyer

    April 4, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    The intrusion into a private man’s funds and what he has done with them is utterly despicable. The way things are going, it will be illegal to be a Christian in due time. It is a shame that so many people, including Christians, are guilted into supporting the redefinition of marriage. God help us all.

     
  3. Will S.

    April 4, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    It is despicable.

    What the progs will do next, is disqualify donations to churches that fail to toe the prog line on gay rights as being charitable donations for tax purposes.

    The more compromising churches will be quick to get into lockstep; mainlines who are already apostate will have no problems, of course.

    The more uncompromising churches will accept the loss of charitable status for tax purposes, and will lose some members who care more about money, while retaining those who care about the faith.

    Then the progs will go after the more uncompromising churches, in whatever ways they can. Changing zoning laws, preventing building of new churches anywhere uncompromising churches wish to expand into, denying accreditation to their church-run / church-affiliated schools, etc.

    Eventually, yes, if they can, they no doubt will make being an uncompromising Christian effectively illegal.

    Children will ask their parents, “Why can’t we be free to be Christian like they are in Russia?”

    God help us all, indeed.

     
  4. Will S.

    April 4, 2014 at 3:10 pm

    *Update: Apparently, the list of donors was always a matter of public record.

    Of course, if you donate anonymously, no-one will ever know you did. My point still stands.

     
  5. ballista74

    April 4, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    Actually, there is a reporting requirement to the government for any donation to a charitable tax-exempt organization. So, basically, if you give or serve in one of these organizations, the IRS has everything you ever gave or done on record, and you might as well consider it public anyway. You think you’re free . . .

    As for Will S at 3:06pm, that battle has already been won long ago without much of a peep in most quarters. Most of that is irrelevant, since if a church went 501c3 it literally is an organ of the State anyway. Unfortunately, most of the churches that did it were blind and dumb. Much of that power has gone un-exercised up to this point by the State for fear of political backlash, but it’s all there.

     
  6. ballista74

    April 4, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    Of course, there’s always double-blind cash, making doubly sure that no one knows your name that sees you give it.

     
  7. Eric

    April 4, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    Ballista & Will:
    That IRS regulation has been around for sometime: it’s purpose ironically was originally to increase transparency among social/political activist groups. But that was also in the days before the media became the enforcement arm of the Gay Mafia.

     
  8. Eric

    April 4, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    PS: as a side note, has anyone else noticed that the whole gay-rights issue has lately been turning into something like a witch-hunt? It seems like all of 2014 so far, the media and government have been working overtime to ferret out and persecute ‘homophobia’ wherever they find it.

     
  9. Will S.

    April 4, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    @ ballista74:

    Actually, there is a reporting requirement to the government for any donation to a charitable tax-exempt organization. So, basically, if you give or serve in one of these organizations, the IRS has everything you ever gave or done on record, and you might as well consider it public anyway. You think you’re free . . .

    Oh yeah? No anonymous, unclaimed donations are permitted; that is, the charities that are tax-exempt cannot accept any, and maintain tax-exempt status? Sheesh!

    I don’t know enough about our specific laws up here on such matters to compare, but wow. Harsh.

    And so, if a charity doesn’t apply for tax-exempt status, then the government can require them to pay taxes? Crazy.

    You can’t win…

    As for Will S at 3:06pm, that battle has already been won long ago without much of a peep in most quarters. Most of that is irrelevant, since if a church went 501c3 it literally is an organ of the State anyway. Unfortunately, most of the churches that did it were blind and dumb. Much of that power has gone un-exercised up to this point by the State for fear of political backlash, but it’s all there.

    Yeah, I know. I think churches were stupid to do so, too. Churches up here did the same thing. And thus far, same as down there, the State hasn’t flexed its muscles to try to enforce compliance with P.C. dogma, but it’s coming, no doubt, everywhere…

    Of course, there’s always double-blind cash, making doubly sure that no one knows your name that sees you give it.

    Ah, okay. At least there’s some way…

    @ Eric: Back in those days, nobody ever foresaw what is happening now, and what will happen, increasingly…

    Yes, the witch-hunt is on. It’s damned clear now. The gloves have come off; the iron fists are showing, and are ready to crush dissent.

     
  10. ballista74

    April 4, 2014 at 10:41 pm

    @Will S

    Oh yeah? No anonymous, unclaimed donations are permitted; that is, the charities that are tax-exempt cannot accept any, and maintain tax-exempt status? Sheesh!

    They are, but that’s why I made that “double-blind” comment. Write a check, they have your name, they report it. Of course, if someone knows your name and you hand them a $20, they can record you just the same. Problem is, if an unexplained stack of $100 bills shows up, they’re pretty much put in a bind because they literally have to report it and say it came from *someone* or they’re in some trouble when it comes to the usual charity audits.

    And so, if a charity doesn’t apply for tax-exempt status, then the government can require them to pay taxes? Crazy.

    Yep pretty much with the garden variety charity. Now with churches, they have full legal tax exemption (and always have had, at least in the US – you know “separation of church and state”). So any of those going 501c3 is just engaging in foolishness – most any relatively familiar in the law that are honest about it will say so.

    @Eric Ironic isn’t it? Usually with these kind of “transparency” issues, you always have to ask what the ulterior motive is. I think we’re seeing it now.

     
  11. Will S.

    April 4, 2014 at 10:46 pm

    Of course, nowhere, yet, would a government dare try to collect taxes from a church; not even here. It is therefore indeed foolish for churches to register with the government, just so their members’ donations can be considered charitable just for tax purposes; I have no doubt that governments will start using that to lean on churches that stay true to Scriptural teachings on matters to do with homosexuality.

     
  12. Eric

    April 4, 2014 at 11:25 pm

    Ballista:
    I’d have to check on this, but I think the reporting requirement came in either right after Watergate or during the Reagan Administration, but it was sometime during that era. The idea behind it was so that voters and potential donors could see who was financing various causes so they could determine whether or not an ulterior agenda they agreed with was involved. The policy actually worked for some time: but its authors couldn’t foresee a Government/Media/Academia Complex that would work together to use it as weapon.

     
  13. ballista74

    April 5, 2014 at 12:56 am

    Of course, nowhere, yet, would a government dare try to collect taxes from a church; not even here. It is therefore indeed foolish for churches to register with the government, just so their members’ donations can be considered charitable just for tax purposes; I have no doubt that governments will start using that to lean on churches that stay true to Scriptural teachings on matters to do with homosexuality.

    I did a little quick search, and see the movement actually is out there. The argument seems to be that “by allowing churches to not pay taxes, the government is subsidizing these places and therefore respecting the establishment of religion”. The point was, member’s donations were always tax deductible. The 501c3 stuff as it has to do with churches is complete folly and serves no benefit for the churches themselves.

    And you are right. The problem is, having put themselves into that bind, most of them will fold faster than Superman on laundry day when it comes to marrying homosexuals (that’s where the issue will crop itself up) on church grounds. By being 501c3, they will have to “uphold public interest”, by which they can’t oppose or support any kind of public policy – especially they can’t refuse to follow established law. Which means, refusing to marry homosexual couples will cause a breach of established public policy and law…and the way most churches are, they are Churchian – following after the idol organization they have built and not God, they will preserve their idols at all costs. The alternative is to refuse to marry couples at all, which most will not be willing to do.

    Unfortunately, most already implicitly support homosexuality to begin with, so they’ll just give right in anyway. The ones that fight and what we hear about will be the outliers: If they happen to be 501c3, they’ll be crushed like ants.

    @Eric Anything in existence can always be used for evil. In a way, this should have been very foreseen by observing Nixon himself.

     
  14. Will S.

    April 5, 2014 at 1:09 am

    Ah; I hadn’t appreciated that member’s donations were always tax deductible, Stateside. Here, they’re partially deductible, but only to a small degree.

    Yeah, I think we’re in for ugly and vicious times ahead.

    You know, I actually have a few gay friends; all of whom are only ‘out’ to some people, and ‘closeted’ to others, depending on social spheres. And none of them are vicious fascists like these progs, far as I know. I’d bet some of them at least would be embarrassed at the antics of their fellow queers, and worse, that of prog straights acting ostensibly on their behalf. Andrew Sullivan has condemned these prog litmus-tests, this whole mentality. I just wish more would follow suit and do likewise.

     
  15. Will S.

    April 5, 2014 at 1:50 am

    Indeed, infowarrior1.

     

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